Sometimes making work more fair doesn’t require a sweeping policy change or a million-dollar program. Guest Siri Chilazi is a researcher at Harvard who studies gender equity, workplace behavior, and decision-making. She is also the co-author of the bestselling book Make Work Fair, written with behavioral economist Iris Bohnet.

Siri’s work challenges one of the most common assumptions we make about inequality at work — that the problem is biased people who need to be “fixed.”

Instead, her research shows that unfairness is baked into systems, processes, and everyday practices — how we hire, evaluate, promote, pay, and even run meetings.

In this conversation, we talk about:

• What fairness actually means — and how it’s different from equality or equity
• Why traditional DEI programs often fall short
• The small, evidence-based changes that make the biggest difference
• What employees at any level can do to create fairer workplaces
• And why transparency and clarity are among the most powerful tools leaders have

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