In this episode of the Help Me Understand podcast, host JK welcomes back Joy Parrish (co-host of the Older & Wilder podcast) for a wide-ranging and multi-layered conversation.

As podcaster, puppy raiser, and licensed mental health professional, Joy brings a multifaceted perspective to this conversation between friends.

JK and Joy discuss the appeal of reality TV as a form of passive entertainment, and their takeaways and commentary on the Super Bowl halftime show (by Kendrick Lamar), examining the intersection of entertainment, social justice, and personal perspectives.

They discuss the power of art to provoke conversation, the importance of audience engagement, and the role of personal and collective pain in creating meaningful art.

JK and Joy also chat about navigating corporate spaces, the significance of curiosity and understanding in discussions about social issues, and the necessity of choosing battles wisely in the face of negativity.

Listen in as they each share their perspectives on the importance of inspiration and action in driving social change,

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00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction

03:20 Joy's Podcast Journey and Mental Health Insights

06:12 The Appeal of Reality TV and Passive Entertainment

12:29 Leadership Lessons from Reality Shows

19:01 Super Bowl Halftime Show and Cultural Commentary

29:33 Art as a Medium for Conversation

32:30 The Power of Performance and Audience Engagement

34:21 Transforming Pain into Art

38:27 Navigating Corporate Spaces and Social Commentary

40:56 The Importance of Curiosity and Understanding

44:56 Choosing Your Battles Wisely

48:48 The Role of Energy in Response

52:57 Inspiration and Action in Social Change