What does it actually mean to be “rich” today?

Because if you’re waiting for the old playbook to work—go to school, get a stable job, buy a house, retire comfortably—you may be waiting a long time.

The truth is, that version of wealth? It’s outdated. And for a lot of younger earners especially, it feels completely out of reach.

So what are the new rules?

Today’s guest has built a massive following by calling out the broken advice we’ve inherited—and replacing it with something far more realistic, and frankly, more empowering. Haley Sacks, also known as Mrs. Dow Jones, is back on So Money with her new book, Future Rich Person.

And this is not your typical money book.

Haley is speaking directly to what she calls the “zillennial” generation—but really, anyone who feels like they’re doing all the right things and still not getting ahead. In our conversation, we talk about why the traditional path to wealth is due for a rewrite, how to actually start building what she calls “action money,” and why your income, your skills, and even your relationship to work need to evolve in an AI-driven economy.

We also get into some of the cultural forces shaping how we think about money right now—from the rise of “trad wife” content to the very real temptation to opt out of the financial game altogether.

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