When bestselling author and IF:Gathering founder Jennie Allen sits down with Ginny, they go straight at the question nearly everyone’s asking but few will admit out loud: How do I make friends—real ones—right now? Jennie unpacks why today’s parents are living through a “fast loneliness” era how mixed-age friendships grow resilient kids, and why neediness isn’t a flaw but instead, it’s the doorway to community.

From her Find Your People research to simple rules like “five friends within five miles,” Jennie offers repeatable steps that work: initiate even when it’s awkward, gather around a fire when you can, and stop waiting to be chosen.

We talk about conflict and why you can’t build depth without it) the mental-health crisis for kids and adults, and how shared purpose, outdoor time, and everyday togetherness (walks, Costco runs, carpool rides) builds strong bonds. If you’ve ever thought, I’m too busy, too late, too new in town, this conversation hands you a plan you can use tonight. Tap in, take notes, and then text someone to come over. Friends are made, not found.

Links:

Jennie Allen — Find Your People

Jennie Allen — Get Out of Your Head (for grown-ups):

Jennie Allen — What to Do with Your Whirly-Swirly Thoughts (for kids):

IF:Gathering: https://www.ifgathering.com

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