2 Complicated 4 History

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Tore Olsson to explore the wildly popular video game Red Dead Redemption 2. How does it reflect the history of the West, a world of the first megacorporations, the labor movement, and infamous characters like Jesse James? And what can we learn from it today? Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon: www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia TRANSCRIPT: coming soon  OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introduction 3:10 - How Historically Accurate is Red Dead Redemption? 8:45 - Biggest Inaccuracies 14:44 - Disputes Over Capitalism 17:06 - Defining the American West 18:43 - How Did This Become a College Course? 30:44 - Was the Course Effective? 32:51 - History Has a Lot of Lore and Crafting a Book 34:40 - 1893 World’s Columbian Exposition 41:37 - The Anxiety of a Changing System and Losing Masculinity 45:56 - TR’s Obsession with American Masculinity 47:40 - The Role of the Transcontinental Railroad 51:15 - Who Were the Pinkertons? 55:41 - The Southern Stories  01:00:35 - The Fictionalization of the Time Period 01:03:01 - Audiobook Version! 01:04:46 - Historic Sites to Visit and Where you can find Tore EPISODE LINKS: Tore Olsson – https://history.utk.edu/person/olsson-tore/ Red Dead's History: A Video Game, an Obsession, and America's Violent Past – https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250287700/reddeadshistory Audiobook - https://www.audible.com/pd/Red-Deads-History-Audiobook/B0CKM6FB83 Red Dead Redemption 2 – https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/red-dead-redemption-2 Pinkerton Detective Agency – https://www.britannica.com/topic/Pinkerton-National-Detective-Agency Labor Movement – https://www.loc.gov/collections/american-federation-of-labor-records/articles-and-essays/timeline/ Jesse James – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jesse-James-and-Frank-James Wild Bill Hickok – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Wild-Bill-Hickok John D. Rockefeller – https://www.britannica.com/money/John-D-Rockefeller Dr. Olsson’s class - https://history.utk.edu/tore-olsson-in-the-conversation-why-i-turned-the-red-dead-redemption-ii-video-game-into-a-history-class-on-americas-violent-past/ Oregon Trail – https://oregontrail.ws Chicago World’s Fair – https://www.britannica.com/event/Worlds-Columbian-Exposition Frederick Jackson Turner – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Frederick-Jackson-Turner Theodore Roosevelt – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Theodore-Roosevelt History of “Dude” – https://blog.oup.com/2022/12/dude-a-long-history-of-a-short-word/ Allen Pinkerton – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Allan-Pinkerton Lynching of Sicilians in New Orleans – https://egrove.olemiss.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1148&context=hon_thesis Deadwood, South Dakota – https://www.deadwood.com/  PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: 2c4hpod.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/2c4h_Podcast - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Christian McWhirter to explore the world of music during the American Civil War. We still know many of the popular songs today; but what did they mean to soldiers and civilians of the 1860s? And what does Abraham Lincoln’s taste in music say about him and his era? Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon: www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia TRANSCRIPT: coming soon  OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introduction 3:53 - The Music Industry During the Civil War 7:56 - What Happened to The Harpsichord? 10:17 - The History of Songs We Know Today from the Civil War 19:31 - Communal and Individual Music 22:09 - Did the Civil War Make Music More Political? 27:10 - Minstrelsy and Black Music in the South  41:34 - The Importance of Cultural Context  44:48 - Lincoln’s Relationship with Music 55:25 - Lincoln’s Engagement with Black Music 1:00:40 - What Historic Sites You Should Visit 1:05:45 - Where to Find Dr. McWhirter? EPISODE LINKS:. Battle Hymns: The Power and Popularity of Music in the Civil War – https://uncpress.org/book/9781469613673/battle-hymns/ Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library and Museum - https://presidentlincoln.illinois.gov Dixie lyrics – https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/civil-war-music-dixie The Battle Cry of Freedom - https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/civil-war-music-battle-cry-freedom-southern-version The Battle Hymn of the Republic – https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/civil-war-music-battle-hymn-republic Marching Through George – https://digitalcommons.conncoll.edu/sheetmusic/898/ John Brown’s Body – https://history.iowa.gov/history/education/educator-resources/primary-source-sets/abolitionist-movement/john-browns-body-song Bonnie Blue Flag - https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/civil-war-music-bonnie-blue-flag Just Before the Battle Mother - https://www.battlefields.org/learn/primary-sources/civil-war-music-just-battle-mother Stephen Foster - https://songofamerica.net/song/camptown-races/ Oh, Susanna – https://songofamerica.net/song/oh-susanna/ Camptown Races – https://songofamerica.net/song/camptown-races/ Mad Men Minstrel Episode - https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/mad-men-blackface-episode-roger-sterling-don-draper-imdb-tv-a9596921.html American Discord: The Republic and Its People in the Civil War Era - Chapter regarding music about Lincoln – https://lsupress.org/9780807169698/american-discord/ Abraham Lincoln to Mary Lincoln, 2 July 1848 - https://papersofabrahamlincoln.org/documents/D200505 They Knew Lincoln - https://global.oup.com/academic/product/they-knew-lincoln-9780190270964?cc=se&lang=en& ALPLM Blog - https://presidentlincoln.illinois.gov/blog Edwards Place - https://www.edwardsplace.org Dana-Thomas House - https://dana-thomas.org PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: 2c4hpod.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:   https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/2c4h_Podcast - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Lucy Smith to explore the history of dentistry and the evolving meanings that humans have projected onto this part of the body. How were teeth extracted before dentists—and before Novocain? When did “perfect” teeth become so important? And what in the world were George Washington’s dentures made of, if not wood? Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon: www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia TRANSCRIPT: coming soon  OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introductions 3:23 - Why Teeth? 5:20 - Were George Washington’s Teeth Wood? 9:52 - The Concerns Around Tooth Aches 11:18 - Have People Always Felt This Way About Teeth? 18:21 - Dental Care Before Dentists 25:27 - Anesthetic? 27:18 - When Did Teeth Start to Matter? 32:22 - Teeth and Being a Good American 37:49 - Losing Teeth 39:46 - What Were The Dentures Made of? 45:39 - Where Were All the Teeth Coming From? 1:00:00 - Historic Sites to Visit 1:03:55 - Where You can Find Lucy EPISODE LINKS: University of Michigan graduate history department – https://lsa.umich.edu/history/graduates/lucy-smith--st--louis--mo.html Contact information – https://lsa.umich.edu/history/people/graduate-students/lksmit.html Michael Twitty – https://afroculinaria.com/about/ George Washington’s dentures – https://www.mountvernon.org/george-washington/health/washingtons-teeth Caravaggio, The Tooth-Drawer – https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Caravaggio,_Michelangelo_Merisi_da_-_The_Tooth-Drawer-_1607-09.jpg Josiah Wedgewood – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Josiah-Wedgwood Ivory Waterloo teeth – https://www.vanleestantiques.com/product/ivory-artificial-waterloo-teeth-c-1800/ False Teeth – https://www.mountvernon.org/library/digitalhistory/digital-encyclopedia/article/false-teeth John Greenwood – https://www.mountvernon.org/library/digitalhistory/digital-encyclopedia/article/john-greenwood-1760-1819 A Famine of Cadavers episode – https://open.spotify.com/episode/4yF0H8gf2tn3IvJRXQtO3D?si=6d2ccb7338624caa National Dentistry Museum – https://www.dentalmuseum.com Brown Bag Lunch featuring Library Fellow Lucy Smith - https://www.youtube.com/live/X7F_3l0o_fQ?si=bjIia_ZuqvoT12V6 Lunch and Learn: Mouth to Mouth: The Tooth Trade in Washington’s World – https://youtu.be/lfyyQ43Z5Cw?si=HaK4zUAWgoSVKnnK The Object of History Podcast episode: “Holding the Atlantic World in his Mouth”: George Washington, an MHS Portrait, and the Culture of Teeth in the 18th Century – https://www.masshist.org/podcast/season-3-episode-1-washingtons-teeth The Costs of an All-American Smile – https://rackham.umich.edu/discover-rackham/allamericansmile/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: 2c4hpod.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/2c4h_Podcast - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Description: Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Heather Haley to discuss sexuality and the military during the Cold War. A new "ideal of American morality” resulted in federal purges of gay men, lesbians, and bisexuals that became known as the Lavender Scare. How did the individuals affected fight back? Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon: www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia TRANSCRIPT: coming soon  Note: The thoughts, views, opinions, and intellectual property expressed in this podcast do not necessarily reflect those of the Naval History and Heritage Command, the Department of the Navy, or the Department of Defense OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introduction 0:37 - How Dr. Haley Choose this Topic 6:24 - A note to Graduate Students in the Humanities from Lynn 7:45 - Understanding the Terminology 11:05 -Where did the Term Lavender Scare Come From? 16:59 - Why Now? What Brought This On? 21:21 - LGBTQ as a Security Risk 26:57 - Are There Any Actual Instances of Someone Being Compromised?  33:45 - The Crittenden Report 35:33 - Vernon Berg and Lawrence Gibson 43:17 - Interrogation Tactics and Intimidation 52:19 - Good Order and Discipline: Incentivised Outing 58:26 - Who Is Making These Policies 1:00:38 - The Importance of Getting it Right, Dr. Haley’s Book, and Being Nice to Archivists 1:06:17 - Where You Can Find Dr. Haley EPISODE LINKS:. Dr. Heather M. Haley – Twitter @GALLIFRAEAN Women Also Know History - https://womenalsoknowhistory.com/individual-scholar-page/?pdb=58 The Straight State: Sexuality and Citizenship in Twentieth-Century America, Margot Canaday - https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691149936/the-straight-state The Lavender Scare - https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2016/summer/lavender.html Vernon E. Berg III and Lawrence Gibson - https://makinggayhistory.org/podcast/copy-berg/ Susan Stryker - https://www.susanstryker.net/about Christine Jorgensen - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Christine-Jorgensen Joseph McCarthy - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Joseph-McCarthy The Lavender Scare: The Cold War Persecution of Gays and Lesbians in the Federal Government, David K. Johnson - https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/L/bo193960577.html Oppenheimer – https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15398776/ Hidden Figures - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4846340/ Marilyn Monroe in WWII - https://americangimuseum.org/marilyn-monroe-in-world-war-ii/ The Deviant's War: The Homosexual vs. the United States of America, Eric Cervini - https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374139797/thedeviantswar Crittenden Report - https://archive.org/details/gay-history-us-crittenden-report-1957 Get off my ship: Ensign Berg vs. the U.S. Navy, E. Lawrence Gibson - https://archive.org/details/getoffmyshipensi00gibs Harvey Milk - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Harvey-Milk PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: 2c4hpod.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:   https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/2c4h_Podcast - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Jason Herbert to talk about Florida and Seminole history, the role of cattle in identity formation, and where the first cowpeople existed in the United States. Hint: It wasn’t in the Wild West! Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon: www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia TRANSCRIPT: coming soon  OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introduction 4:42 - Florida: A Remarkable Place 5:43 - Cattle Ranching...A Product of FL? 7:33 - Explaining Seminole, Alachua and the First Cow People 12:48 - Cattle Origins in FL: The Charismatic Megafauna 21:09 - The First Cowboys in Florida  22:14 - Feral Cattle 22:33 - The Story of Cowkeeper and the Alachua Communities 25:41 - The Seminolization of Florida 26:57 - From Cow Hunting to Cow Ranching: The Impact of Cattle in Florida 38:38 - The Emergence of the Term 'Cracker' and its Significance in Florida 48:37 - Impacts on Native Peoples in Florida 51:55 - How Jason Came Across This Story 54:33 - Reflecting on the Seminole Wars 58:41 - Floridians as Cow People Even Today 1:06:13 - Exploring Florida's Cattle History: Key Locations 1:09:58 - Where You Can Find Jason EPISODE LINKS: Jason Herbert – https://jasonherbert.substack.com Historians at the Movies – https://www.historiansatthemovies.com Jason on X and Instagram - @HERBERTHISTORY Deseret Ranch, Florida - https://www.deseretranches.com Seminole tribe of Florida – https://www.semtribe.com Miccosukee tribe of Florida – https://miccosukee.com/miccosukee-tribe-history/ Moses Jumper, Jr. – https://seminoletribune.org/q-and-a-with-moses-bigg-shot-jumper-jr/ Dan Flores - https://projectcoyote.org/about/ambassadors/dan-flores/ Juan Ponce de Leon – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Juan-Ponce-de-Leon Creatures of Empire – https://global.oup.com/academic/product/creatures-of-empire-9780195304466?cc=us&lang=en& Andalusia, Spain – https://www.britannica.com/place/Andalusia-region-Spain Hernando de Soto – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Hernando-de-Soto Creek – https://www.britannica.com/topic/Creek-people The Creek War – https://www.britannica.com/event/Creek-War Panton, Leslie & Company – https://encyclopediaofalabama.org/article/panton-leslie-company/ William Bartram – https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/naturalists/bartram/ Patriot War – https://www.jaxhistory.org/patriot-war-1812/ Seminole Wars – https://www.britannica.com/topic/Seminole-Wars Florida Cracker Trading Company – https://www.floridacrackerstyle.com The Land Remembered – https://alandremembered.com Armed Occupation Act of 1842 – https://myfloridahistory.org/date-in-history/august-04-1842/armed-occupation-act Osceola – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Osceola-Seminole-leader Micanopy, Florida – https://micanopytown.com Paynes Prairie Preserve State Park – https://www.floridastateparks.org/parks-and-trails/paynes-prairie-preserve-state-park Big Cypress Reservation – https://www.semtribe.com/enterprises/big-cypress-reservation Everglades National Park – https://www.nps.gov/ever/index.htm Brooksville, Florida – https://www.nps.gov/ever/index.htm Lake Placid – https://www.lakeplacidfl.net Highlands County, Florida – https://www.highlandsfl.gov Brighton Reservation – https://www.semtribe.com/enterprises/brighton-reservation PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: 2c4hpod.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/2c4h_Podcast - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by John Smith to discuss the unknown side of Abigail Adams. What made this first lady and mother of a president tick? Her letters reveal a saucier side never before seen. Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon: www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia TRANSCRIPT: coming soon  OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introduction 1:42 - Choosing Abigail Adams as a Subject 6:38 - How did John and Abigail Meet? 9:29 - Abigail’s Stubbornness 11:01 - Abigail's Letters and the Importance of Primary Sources 15:54 - The 'Remember the Ladies' Letter 22:47 - The Importance of Women's Education 27:53 - Abigail’s Connections 34:11 - Hating Alexander Hamilton 34:59 - Abigail's Practice of Physiognomy 36:49 - Abigail’s Sailor Mouth 38:46 - Abigail's Controlling Nature 41:45 - Things You Definitely Don’t Know About Abigail Adams 50:11 - Abigail as First Lady and John's Chief of Staff 54:09 - Where you can find the book and John EPISODE LINKS: The Unexpected Abigail Adams: A Woman “Not Apt to Be Intimidated”- https://www.westholmepublishing.com/book/abigail-adams-smith/ Abigail Adams - https://www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/abigail-adams John Adams HBO Miniseries - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0472027/ John Adams - https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-Adams-president-of-United-States Rheumatic Fever - https://www.cdc.gov/groupastrep/diseases-public/rheumatic-fever.html#:~:text=Rheumatic%20fever%20is%20a%20condition,important%20in%20fighting%20off%20infections. Charles Francis Adams, Sr. - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Charles-Francis-Adams Founders Online – https://founders.archives.gov Massachusetts Historical Society - https://www.masshist.org Abigail to John Adams, 1776, “Remember the Ladies” - https://www.masshist.org/digitaladams/archive/doc?id=L17760331aa Mercy Otis Warren - https://www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/mercy-otis-warren Sally Hemings - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Sally-Hemings Benjamin Franklin - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Benjamin-Franklin Samuel Adams - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Samuel-Adams Alexander Hamilton - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Alexander-Hamilton-United-States-statesman Physiognomy - https://www.britannica.com/topic/physiognomy-divination Patience Wright - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Patience-Wright Bohemia - https://www.britannica.com/place/Bohemia John Quincy Adams - https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-Quincy-Adams PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: 2c4hpod.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/2c4h_Podcast - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Paul Cooper, a podcaster and author who examines the rise and fall of civilizations throughout history. What led to the ultimate collapse of previously successful civilizations, and are we making any of those same mistakes today? TRANSCRIPT: coming soon  OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introduction 4:01 - The Inception of The Fall of Civilizations Podcast 6:56 - How Do You Define A Civilization? 7:54 - Paul’s Style of Presenting History 13:25 - How Paul Found Himself in Saddam Hussein’s Palace 16:05 - Babylon Reimagined Through History 18:12 - Finding Materials for the Next Episode 21:13 - Choosing What to Include  27:26 - Production Challenges and his Process 28:37 - The Book vs The Podcast 30:34 - How Can We Make History More Engaging 35:54 - How Paul Got Into History 40:20 - Paul’s Favorite Archive Story 45:31 - Why Something Didn’t Make It into the Book 47:29 - The Value of Studying History 57:08 - History is Not Linear 1:02:11 - Favorite Apocalypse  EPISODE LINKS: Paul M.M. Cooper - https://www.paulmmcooper.com Fall of Civilizations: Stories of Greatness and Decline - https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/fall-of-civilizations-stories-of-greatness-and-decline-paul-cooper/7592286?ean=9780715655009 YouTube Channel - https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLR7yrLMHm11Xv2FOeHtuhern2tYm_Yd0H&feature=shared Byzantine Empire - https://www.britannica.com/place/Byzantine-Empire Babylonia - https://www.britannica.com/place/Babylonia British Library - https://www.bl.uk Mesopotamia – https://www.britannica.com/place/Mesopotamia-historical-region-Asia Assyria - https://www.britannica.com/place/Assyria Inca - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Inca Twitter - @PaulMMCooper Reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/FallofCivilizations/ PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: 2c4hpod.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/2c4h_Podcast - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Lorri Glover, an expert on a little-known woman entrepreneur of the eighteenth century. She had “schemes,” negotiated with men, made a fortune, and still fulfilled the era’s ideal of a mother and a woman. Why don’t we know more about her? Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon: www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia TRANSCRIPT: coming soon  OUTLINE: 0:00 - Intro 1:22 - Who was Eliza Lucas Pinckney 3:25 - Eliza's Upbringing and Sense of Self 5:56 - Absentee Landholders 6:57 - How Lorri Found Eliza and the Primary Sources She Used 11:42 - The Importance of Digital Humanities 14:17 - Eliza Developing Schemes 19:17 - The Dangers of Sugar Production And Eliza's View on Slavery 24:52 - Taking Over the Plantations 28:47 - Was Eliza a Typical Woman 32:52 - Indigo and Eliza’s Entrepreneurial Spirit 40:09 - Eliza's Marriage and Loss 45:18 - Eliza's Connection to London and Becoming a Patriot 48:22 - A Model of the Plantar Patriarch 52:01 - Favorite Eliza Story 54:36 - Eliza as a Religious Woman 57:55 - Who is Daniel Park 1:05:22 - Exploring Eliza’s Legacy: Historical Sites in South Carolina EPISODE LINKS: Lorri Glover, PhD - https://www.slu.edu/arts-and-sciences/history/faculty/glover-lorri.php Eliza Lucas Pinckney: An Independent Woman in the Age of Revolution - https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300236118/eliza-lucas-pinckney/ Eliza Lucas Pinckney, Letters & Memoranda, 1740-1762 - https://nationalhumanitiescenter.org/pds/becomingamer/peoples/text5/elizapinckney.pdf Antigua - https://www.britannica.com/summary/Antigua-and-Barbuda George Washington's Barbados Diary, 1751-52 - https://www.upress.virginia.edu/title/5139/ All Our Relations: Blood Ties and Emotional Bonds Among the Early South Carolina Gentry - https://academic.oup.com/jah/article-abstract/89/1/207/689079 The Letterbook of Eliza Lucas Pinckney, 1739-1762 - https://uscpress.com/The-Letterbook-of-Eliza-Lucas-Pinckney-1739-1762 The Papers of Eliza Lucas Pinckney and Harriott Pinckney Horry - https://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu/PinckneyHorry/ The Papers of the Revolutionary Era Pinckney Statesmen - https://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu/founders/PNKY.html “Conservation Complete for the Eliza Lucas Pinckney Gown” – https://www.charlestonmuseum.org/news-events/conservation-complete-for-the-eliza-lucas-pinckney-gown/ The Charleston Museum - https://www.charlestonmuseum.org Stono Rebellion - https://www.britannica.com/topic/insurrection-politics The Great Awakening - https://www.britannica.com/event/Great-Awakening Indigo in South Carolina - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/indigo-making-comeback-south-carolina-180980987/ Charles Pinckney - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Charles-Pinckney Daniel Parke - https://encyclopediavirginia.org/entries/parke-daniel-1669-1710/ John Custis IV gravestone - https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/30234605/john-custis Hampton Plantation - https://south-carolina-plantations.com/charleston/hampton.html Rainbow Row, Charleston, S.C. - https://charleston.com/charleston-insider/lowcountry-lifestyles/the-captivating-history-of-rainbow-row Thomas Pinckney Home - https://charleston.com/charleston-insider/diary-of-a-charleston-tour-guide/114-broad-street-colonel-thomas-pinckney-house PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: 2c4hpod.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/2c4h_Podcast - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices