2 Complicated 4 History

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by John G. Turner and Lincoln A. Mullen, creators of the new podcast “Antisemitism U.S.A.,” to explore the history of antisemitism in the United States. Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon: www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia TRANSCRIPT: coming soon  OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introductions 1:38 - How Did the Podcast Come to Be? 6:08 - Why Do You Think The History of Antisemitism Has Been Overlooked?  11:52 - What Was It Like for Aaron Lopez? 17:22 - What is Antisemitism? 22:46 - What Is The Discrimination Based on? 28:37 - How Did Antisemitism Shift in the 20th Century? 30:52 - Did Jewish Immigration Play a Role In the Evolution of Antisemism? 35:44 - How Did Public Morality Influence Religious Toleration? 53:51 - What Led To The Changes That Brought Rights to the Jewish People? 58:57 - What Impact Do You Want Your Podcast to Have? 1:07:05 - Outro EPISODE LINKS: Antisemitism U.S.A. podcast – https://www.r2studios.org/show/Antisemitism-USA/ Dr. John Turner – https://religiousstudies.gmu.edu/people/jturne17 Dr. Lincoln Mullen – https://lincolnmullen.com George Mason University – https://www.gmu.edu R2 Studios – https://www.r2studios.org 1619 Project – https://pulitzercenter.org/sites/default/files/full_issue_of_the_1619_project.pdf Virginia Declaration of Rights – https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/virginia-declaration-of-rights Aaron Lopez – https://www.jewishpress.com/sections/features/features-on-jewish-world/jacob-rivera-aaron-lopez-and-isaac-hart-three-leading-jewish-merchants-in-colonial-america/2023/02/15/ David Sorkin, “Jewish Emancipation: A History across Five Centuries” – https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691164946/jewish-emancipation?srsltid=AfmBOopqCx_mdBC0C72N-z7KCR5hDnsWNDxoe3fMKkbLOqtlaCKoJFRt Zionism – https://www.britannica.com/topic/Zionism International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance - https://holocaustremembrance.com Mark Oppenheimer, “Squirrel Hill: The Tree of Life Synagogue Shooting and the Soul of a Neighborhood” – https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/611023/squirrel-hill-by-mark-oppenheimer/ Henry Ford – https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/henryford-antisemitism/ Race Science – https://library.harvard.edu/confronting-anti-black-racism/scientific-racism Prohibition – https://www.britannica.com/event/Prohibition-United-States-history-1920-1933 Dwight D. Eisenhower, “In other words, our form of government has no sense unless it is founded in a deeply felt religious faith, and I don't care what it is." – https://www.eisenhowerlibrary.gov/eisenhowers/quotes Bolshevism – https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803095516209 Jacob Henry – https://www.dncr.nc.gov/blog/2023/12/08/jacob-henry-ca-1775-1847-c-83 Britt Tevis – https://www.britttevis.com PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: 2c4hpod.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:   https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/2c4h_Podcast - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Barbara Vorndick to explore the life of Eliza Monroe and the story that has been told about her for two-hundred years—and why it is false. Now the push is on to bring James Monroe’s daughter home. Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon: www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia TRANSCRIPT: coming soon  OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introductions 1:39 - Why Barbara Started The Biography 7:12 - Who Was President James Monroe? 13:25 - Eliza Monroe's Education and Early Life 19:20 - Eliza the Nurse 23:00 - Eliza the First Lady Daughter 26:20 - Eliza the Firecracker 30:30 - The Primary Sources That Fueled The Research 33:14 - The Sea Voyage to France 42:48 - Whodunnit 51:12 - Did Eliza Get a Proper Funeral? 55:08 - Breaking News - Where Are We Now? 58:35 - How Can We Help Bring Eliza Home? EPISODE LINKS: Eliza’s True. Story: The First Biography of President Monroe’s Eldest Daughter - https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/elizas-true-story-barbara-vorndick/1145846740 Bringing Eliza Home - https://hffi.org/bringing-eliza-home/ The Bringing Eliza Home Project (Facebook) – https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61558069665312 Donate - https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=DNXN2KMNKVGHG Eliza Monroe - https://www.whitehousehistory.org/bios/elizabeth-monroe James Monroe - https://www.britannica.com/biography/James-Monroe James Monroe’s Highland - https://highland.org Louisiana Purchase – https://www.britannica.com/event/Louisiana-Purchase Monroe Doctrine – https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/monroe-doctrine Jeanne-Louise-Henriette Genest Campan - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jeanne-Louise-Henriette-Genest-Campan Caroline Bonaparte – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Caroline-Bonaparte Hortense de Beauharnais – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Hortense Elizabeth Kortright Monroe - https://www.whitehousehistory.org/bios/elizabeth-monroe George Hay - https://www.fjc.gov/node/1381966 Margaret Bayard Smith – https://www.loc.gov/collections/margaret-bayard-smith-papers/about-this-collection/ Frances Depau (ship) - https://oac.cdlib.org/findaid/ark:/13030/c80k2cvw/entire_text/ Maria Hester Monroe - https://jmonroe3d.umwhistory.org/exhibit/maria-hester-monroe-gouverneur/ Samuel Laurence Gouverneur - https://archives.nypl.org/mss/1187 Daniel Brent – https://history.state.gov/departmenthistory/people/brent-daniel-carroll James Monroe Museum and Memorial Library - https://jamesmonroemuseum.umw.edu James Monroe Memorial Foundation - https://monroefoundation.org Found and Sons Funeral Chapel - https://www.foundandsons.com/locations/found-and-sons-funeral-chapel-of-fredericksburg PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: 2c4hpod.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/2c4h_Podcast - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Philip Thompson to discuss the history of espionage and the psychological motivations behind becoming an international spy. Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon: www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia TRANSCRIPT: coming soon  OUTLINE: 0:00 - Coming Up 1:09 - Introductions 3:48 - The M.I.C.E. Framework: Understanding Spy Motivations 7:21 - The Background of Spies: Who Becomes a Spy? 10:05 - Psychological Factors in Espionage 13:15 - Ideology vs. Money: The Dual Motivations of Spies 24:56 -Case Studies: The Rosenbergs and Their Impact 28:42 - Case Studies: George Blake and the Consequence of Compromise 32:23 - The Complexity of Coercion in Espionage 42:46 - The Role of Women in Espionage History 47:49 - Ego as a Motivating Factor in Spying 52:00 - Case Studies: Edward Snowden, Noble Convictions or Ego? 57:36 - Evolution of Espionage Frameworks 1:01:20 -The Intersection of Fiction and Reality in Spy Culture 1:04:38 - Understanding M.I.C.E. in Personal Life 01:06:21 - Historical Sites to Visit EPISODE LINKS: Philip Thompson YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@PhilipThompson Project Slammer - https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP87-00812R000200070011-7.pdf Aldrich Ames - https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/aldrich-ames John Walker - https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-Walker-American-spy The Cambridge Spies - https://www.bbc.co.uk/history/historic_figures/spies_cambridge.shtml Anthony Blunt - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Anthony-Blunt J. Edgar Hoover - https://www.britannica.com/biography/J-Edgar-Hoover Oleg Antonovich Gordievsky - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/mar/11/russian-spies-britain-oleg-gordievsky Julius and Ethel Rosenberg - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Julius-Rosenberg-and-Ethel-Rosenberg David Greenglass - https://ahf.nuclearmuseum.org/ahf/profile/david-greenglass/ George Blake - https://www.britannica.com/biography/George-Blake-British-diplomat-and-Soviet-spy 2C4H Lavender Scare - https://youtu.be/PjXYDJW5LF8?si=MUqlIZOke0-17yiq Alan Turing - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Alan-Turing Mata Hari - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Mata-Hari-Dutch-dancer-and-spy Special Operations Executive (SOE) Women Spies - https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofBritain/The-Female-Spies-Of-SOE/ Virginia Hall - https://beta.nationalarchives.gov.uk/explore-the-collection/stories/virginia-hall/ Robert Hanssen - https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/robert-hanssen Edward Snowden - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Edward-Snowden RASCLS - https://www.cia.gov/resources/csi/studies-in-intelligence/volume-57-no-1/an-alternative-framework-for-agent-recruitment-from-mice-to-rascls/ Jonathan Pollard - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jonathan-Pollard International Spy Museum - https://www.spymuseum.org/ Burlington Bunker - https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/burlington-bunker PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: 2c4hpod.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/2c4h_Podcast - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Jane E. Calvert to discuss the lesser known and under appreciated founder John Dickinson. Find out why Dickinson should be placed alongside the names Washington, Adams, and Jefferson in U.S. history books. Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon: www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia TRANSCRIPT: coming soon  OUTLINE: 0:00 - Sneak Peak/Introductions 2:22 - Why John Dickinson? 5:48 - Who Was John Dickinson 9:24 - How Prolific Was He? 22:46 - The Role of Ordinary People in the Revolution 29:15 - Dickinson’s Pen Name and Its Implications 41:24 - Drafting The Articles of Confederation 43:52 - A Man Who Had His Hand In Everything 45:19 - The One Person Who Brought The United States Into Being 53:29 - Dickinson’s Later Years and Legacy 58:39 - Where to Find Jane? 1:01:46 - Dickinson Sites To Visit EPISODE LINKS: Jane E. Calvert, PhD – https://www.drjaneecalvert.org Penman of the Founding – A Biography of John Dickinson - https://global.oup.com/academic/product/penman-of-the-founding-9780197541692?cc=us&lang=en&  The John Dickinson Writings Project - https://www.jdproject.org Quakers - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Society-of-Friends Stamp Act – https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-resources/spotlight-primary-source/stamp-act-1765 Letters from a Farmer in Pennsylvania - https://history.delaware.gov/john-dickinson-plantation/dickinsonletters/pennsylvania-farmer-letters/ Religion and the American Revolution - https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel03.html#:~:text=Religion%20played%20a%20major%20role,in%20the%20sight%20of%20God. John Dickinson, Conservative Revolutionary - https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-american-studies/article/abs/milton-e-flower-john-dickinson-conservative-revolutionary-charlottesville-virginia-the-univ-press-of-virginia-for-the-friends-of-the-john-dickinson-mansion-1983-2750-pp-xii-338/597B92DD95F124DAB8EBB9DBD25EF68B The Cost of Liberty: The Life of John Dickinson - https://www.regnery.com/9781684515479/cost-of-liberty/ Edmund Burke - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Edmund-Burke-British-philosopher-and-statesman John Adams - https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/John-Adams/David-McCullough/9780743223133 The Whig Party - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Whig-Party Benjamin Lay - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/quaker-comet-greatest-abolitionist-never-heard-180964401/ John Woolman - https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-Woolman Mary Norris Dickinson - https://www.womenhistoryblog.com/2011/05/mary-norris-dickinson.html John Dickinson Plantation - https://www.nps.gov/frst/planyourvisit/john-dickinson-plantation.htm  Stenton - https://www.stenton.org PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: 2c4hpod.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/2c4h_Podcast - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Kathleen DuVal to discuss the history of Native Americans over a millennium. Dr. DuVal reveals history from natives’ perspectives, turning the well-known eurocentric view of world history on its head. Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon: www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia TRANSCRIPT: coming soon  OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introductions 1:25 - What Made You Decide to Take On Such a Large Timeline? 4:14 - Where Do You Start? 8:46 - Navigating The Correct Terminology 11:56 - What Was America Like in 1006? 15:03 - Major Differences? Animal husbandry?  16:18 - The Fallacy of European Advancement 18:01 - How Much Of This Work Overlapped with Archeology? 22:12 - Did Anything from the Pre-contact Period Change Your Perception of the Time? 25:21 - Anything From The Recent Centuries that Surprised You? 29:06 - How Did This Penetrate West Into The Continent 32:44 - The Historiography of Native History  35:55 - The Native Perspective On Their History 38:11 - The Importance of Telling These Stories 39:17 - Who Belongs: Race vs Citizenship 41:38 - Lynn’s Favorite Quote From the Book 44:45 - How Do You Deal With History That Isn’t What You Wished It to Be? 49:35 - Was Your Goal to Get People to Empathize? 53:39 - Historical (Web)Sites You Should Visit 56:07 - TV Shows & Films That Are Good Representations 57:23 - Where You Can Find Kathleen DuVal EPISODE LINKS: Kathleen DuVal – https://history.unc.edu/faculty-members/kathleen-duval/; https://kathleenduval.web.unc.edu Native Nations: A Millennium in North America - https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/575441/native-nations-by-kathleen-duval/# 1006 Supernova - https://www.nasa.gov/universe/supernova-remnant-sn-1006/ Medieval Warm Period - https://www.britannica.com/science/medieval-warm-period Moundville Archeology – https://moundville.museums.ua.edu Cherokee History – https://www.cherokee.org Mohawk History – https://www.britannica.com/topic/Mohawk Colonialism – https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/colonialism/ Blood Quantum - https://nativegov.org/resources/blood-quantum-and-sovereignty-a-guide/ Settler Colonialism – https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/settler_colonialism#:~:text=The%20concept%20of%20settler%20colonialism,with%20a%20new%20settler%20population. Ruth Muskrat - https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/articles/read-a-speech-by-a-native-american-activist-from-the-early-1920s/ Jenny Tone-Pah-Hote – https://uncpress.org/book/9781469643663/crafting-an-indigenous-nation/ Reservation Dogs - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13623580/ Rutherford Falls - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11058054/ Resident Alien - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8690918/ Kathleen DuVal on X (formerly Twitter) - @KathleenADuVal PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: 2c4hpod.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:   https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/2c4h_Podcast - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Patrick Spero to discuss an obscure French scientist who became a spy in the newly formed United States. Who was Andres Michaux? And how did Thomas Jefferson participate in the conspiracy that history forgot? Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon: www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia TRANSCRIPT: coming soon  OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introductions 4:08 - The Document That Inspired The Book 7:45 - Who was André Michaux 13:16 - André Michaux In America 16:28- André Michaux’s Most Daring Expedition 18:41- André Michaux’s Transforming Places Around The World 19:45 - André Michaux’s Setting His Sights West 21:23 - What Was The Pitching Process Like? 26:17 - A Bad Start 28:15 - The Policy Towards France and His Impact 31:54 - Did Anyone Else Know What He was Doing? 34:21 - Did Jefferson Know and What Happens Next? 37:56 - Are They Successful? 43:26 - How Does This Saga End?  47:17 - The Modern Day Conspiracy 48:46 - Did This Book Change Your Perspective on the Era? 51:09 - Where You Can Find Patrick  EPISODE LINKS: Dr. Patrick Spero – http://www.patrickspero.com Scientist Turned Spy: André Michaux, Thomas Jefferson, and the Conspiracy of 1793 - https://www.upress.virginia.edu/title/10032/ American Philosophical Society - https://www.amphilsoc.org/user/35 Andres Michaux Subscription List - https://www.amphilsoc.org/item-detail/michaux-expedition-subscription-list-0 Lewis and Clark Expedition - https://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/lewis-clark Michaux Botanical Garden, South Carolina - http://www.tipton-haynes.org/research/history/andre-michaux/ Michaux Botanical Garden, New Jersey - https://graphicarts.princeton.edu/2021/02/03/north-american-sylva-and-the-lost-garden-of-new-jersey/ North American journeys - https://www.michaux.org/journey.htm Michaux in Canada - https://www.biographi.ca/en/bio/michaux_andre_5E.html John Bartram - https://www.britannica.com/topic/American-Philosophical-Society William Bartram - https://encyclopediaofalabama.org/article/william-bartram/ Benjamin Smith Barton - https://archives.upenn.edu/exhibits/penn-people/biography/benjamin-smith-barton/ David Rittenhouse - https://www.britannica.com/biography/David-Rittenhouse Caspar Wistar - https://archives.upenn.edu/exhibits/penn-people/biography/caspar-wistar/ Benjamin Rush - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Benjamin-Rush Edmond Genet - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Edmond-Charles-Genet Citizen Genet Affair - https://www.britannica.com/event/Citizen-Genet-Affair French Revolution - https://www.britannica.com/event/French-Revolution Monticello - https://www.monticello.org PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: 2c4hpod.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:   https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/2c4h_Podcast - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Dr. Lindsay Chervinsky to examine John Adams’ presidency and the peaceful transfer of power in the nascent United States. How has Adams’ legacy echoed through successive presidential administrations? And how did Adams secure the survival of the republic? Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon: www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia TRANSCRIPT: coming soon  OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introductions 1:51 - Why Adams? 4:48 - What Do We Need to Know About Adams? 14:43 - How Did People React to Adams Winning the Election? 17:25 - Was Jefferson’s Election as Important? 20:31 - What Did Adams Do During His Presidency? 27:22 - Was Adams a Moderate? 30:42 - What We Remember About Adams’ Presidency 38:29 - Adams vs the Press 43:36 - How Did people Feel About Adams After His First Term?  46:26 - The Complexity of the Contested Election of 1800 52:21 - How Did the Second Election Go?  55:54 - Reflecting on January 6th and Peaceful Transfers of Power 1:02:52 - Where Can You Find Lindsay EPISODE LINKS: Lindsay M. Chervinsky - https://www.lindsaychervinsky.com Making the Presidency - https://global.oup.com/academic/product/making-the-presidency-9780197653845?cc=us&lang=en& Dr. Chervinsky’s newsletter - https://perfectunion.substack.com The George Washington Presidential Library - https://www.mountvernon.org/library George Washington’s Mount Vernon - https://www.mountvernon.org Abigail Adams - https://www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/abigail-adams Thomas Hobbs - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Thomas-Hobbes Franklin miniseries - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt18351584/ John Jay - https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-Jay “I am fairly out and you fairly in!” - https://www.masshist.org/digitaladams/archive/doc?id=L17970305ja Democratic-Republican Party - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Democratic-Republican-Party Federalist Party - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Federalist-Party Thomas Jefferson - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Thomas-Jefferson Election of 1800 - https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/creating-the-united-states/election-of-1800.html Alien and Sedition Acts - https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/alien-and-sedition-acts#:~:text=Passed%20in%20preparation%20for%20an,brink%20of%20war%20with%20France. George H.W. Bush - https://www.britannica.com/biography/George-H-W-Bush Noah Webster - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Noah-Webster-American-lexicographer James A. Bayard -https://bioguideretro.congress.gov/Home/MemberDetails?memIndex=B000249 Samuel Smith - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Samuel-Smith PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: 2c4hpod.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:   https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/2c4h_Podcast - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Charles Fournier to discuss Ernest Hemingway, his constructed identity, and vernacular landscapes. Hemingway looked up to Theodore Roosevelt and a romanticized, masculine version of the West, but he put on an entirely different persona in Europe. Who was the genuine Hemingway? Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon: www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia TRANSCRIPT: coming soon  OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introductions 1:41 - Why Ernest Hemingway? 7:25 - Learning More About Hemingway. 10:40 - Defining Vernacular Landscapes and Hemingway in the West 18:59 - What I Expected is Not What I Got When I Met Hemingway  10:49 - How Michael Became Interest in Oglethorpe 22:37 - The Tension Between Hemingway's Desire for Fame and Authenticity 32:21 - Persona vs Authenticity 37:44 - The Persistent Effect of His Persona and Is There Anyone Like Him Today? 43:01 - Writing Styles & The Mythos of the West 53:26 - Historical Sites in Wyoming 55:20 - Where You Can Find Charles EPISODE LINKS: Podcast: Those Who Can’t Teach Anymore - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/those-who-cant-teach-anymore/id1646723683 Podcast: The Modern West - https://www.themodernwest.org Look Out For: New Podcast with Diego Javier Luis! Ernest Hemingway - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ernest-Hemingway Hills Like White Elephants - https://jerrywbrown.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Hills-Like-White-Elephants-Hemingway-Ernest.pdf Big Two-Hearted River - https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/inourtime/section14/ A Moveable Feast – https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-moveable-feast-ernest-hemingway/1100213865 Langston Hughes – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Langston-Hughes Hemingway and the Black Renaissance – https://ohiostatepress.org/books/titles/9780814211779.html Gertrude Stein - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Gertrude-Stein Ezra Pound - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ezra-Pound James Joyce - https://www.britannica.com/biography/James-Joyce F. Scott Fitzgerald - https://www.britannica.com/biography/F-Scott-Fitzgerald Vernacular Landscapes - https://www.tclf.org/vernacular-landscapes Owen Wister - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Owen-Wister Edward Abbey - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Edward-Abbey Zane Grey - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Zane-Grey Old Man and the Sea - https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Old-Man-and-the-Sea-novel-by-Hemingway Hemingway’s plane crashes - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/hemingway-and-his-wife-survived-two-plane-crashes-just-one-day-apart-180982884/ Hemingway and World War I - https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2006/spring/hemingway.html Hunter S. Thompson - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Hunter-S-Thompson Hemingway with fish - https://www.anglersjournal.com/saltwater/fighting-big-fish-with-ernest-hemingway The Sun Also Rises - https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Sun-Also-Rises Karen Russell - https://karenrussellauthor.com Finnegans Wake - https://www.britannica.com/topic/Finnegans-Wake Paul Cezanne - https://www.paulcezanne.org Cheyenne Frontier Days - https://cfdrodeo.com Empire, Wyoming - https://www.nps.gov/places/empire-wyoming.htm PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: 2c4hpod.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:   https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/2c4h_Podcast - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dr. Lynn Price Robbins and Isaac S. Loftus are joined by Michael L. Thurmond to discuss James Oglethorpe, the founder of the only British American colony that prohibited chattel slavery prior to the Revolutionary War. Oglethorpe should be considered a founding father; so why is he largely forgotten today? Please support this podcast by checking out our patreon: www.patreon.com/primarysourcemedia TRANSCRIPT: coming soon  OUTLINE: 0:00 - Introductions 1:42 - Who is James Oglethorpe 2:33 - How is James Oglethorp Taught in Georgia Schools? 6:19 - The Known Immorality Around Chattel Slavery 9:18 - Anti-Slavery vs Abolitionist Views 10:49 - How Michael Became Interest in Oglethorpe 14:08 - Digging Deeper 16:08 - What Sources Did Michael Use? 19:03 - What Did The Letter Say!?!? 21:40 - Oglethorpe’s Anti-Slavery Motivations 24:06 - Religiosity and Slavery 30:00 - Dr. Thomas Bray and the Bray Schools 32:55 - John Wesley and the Methodist Church 34:00 - How Did the Legal Status of Slavery Change in Georgia? 38:33 - Oglethorpe’s Legacy, The Lost Cause and the Reaction to the Book 47:05 - They Knew 50:52 - Acknowledging Our Mistakes and Being Better 59:14 - Where You can Find Michael EPISODE LINKS: Micheal L. Thurmond - https://michaelthurmond.net James Oglethorpe, Father of Georgia: A Founder’s Journey from Slave Trader to Abolitionist - https://ugapress.org/book/9780820366043/james-oglethorpe-father-of-georgia/ James E. Oglethorpe - https://www.britannica.com/biography/James-Edward-Oglethorpe Abolitionism – https://www.britannica.com/topic/abolitionism-European-and-American-social-movement Georgia history – https://www.britannica.com/place/Georgia-state Cranham Hall – https://digitalcollections.library.gsu.edu/digital/collection/ajc/id/720/ All Saints – https://allsaintschurchcranham.co.uk/history/ Royal African Company – https://transcription.si.edu/project/29682 Ayuba Suleiman Diallo (Job Ben Soloman) – https://docsouth.unc.edu/neh/bluett/summary.html  Anti-slavery and religion – https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/african-american-odyssey/abolition.html Bray Schools – https://encyclopediavirginia.org/entries/associates-of-dr-bray/ John Wesley – https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-Wesley Battle of Bloody Marsh – https://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/articles/history-archaeology/battle-of-bloody-marsh/ Granville Sharp – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Granville-Sharp Olaudah Equiano – https://www.britannica.com/biography/Olaudah-Equiano Hannah More – https://blog.nationalarchives.gov.uk/hannah-more-a-woman-of-letters/ The Lost Cause – https://www.britannica.com/topic/Lost-Cause PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: 2c4hpod.com Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/2-complicated-4-history/id1664183536 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3svQpZfxhVQnYJMESpp842?si=514780ada34d4aab Full episodes playlist:    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLX2x56DEw1y7EYWxfufgfSR951RrdsXet&si=TuDcpAjaeQx-vjkH SOCIAL: - Twitter: https://twitter.com/2c4h_Podcast - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/2c4hPodcast - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/2c4h_podcast To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices