Join Victoria Stilwell and Holly Firfer as they celebrate 20 years of "It's Me or the Dog." Holly is the VP of programming and Development for ReachTV and Scripps New Anchor. She is a former radio DJ, news correspondent and Victoria's podcast companion for many years. 

Victoria shares her journey from acting to dog training, the creation of her groundbreaking TV show, and the evolution of her mission to educate pet owners and trainers worldwide. The episode highlights memorable moments from the show, the challenges of tackling severe behavioral issues, and the joy of fostering relationships between dogs and their humans.

They also delve into Victoria's educational initiatives, from the Victoria Stilwell Academy to online courses designed for dog enthusiasts and trainers. With stories of success, humor, and heartfelt connections, this episode showcases the enduring impact of positive reinforcement training.