Reflecting on Trump's seismic win in the US presidential election earlier this week, Saul and Patrick discuss what this means for US support for Ukraine in its war against Russia.

Patrick also speaks to friend of the podcast American-Ukrainian Askold Krushelnycky, who is in Washington having returned from Ukraine to vote in the election. He gives his reaction, as well as sharing the those of his friends and contacts back in Ukraine.

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