This episode is just what you need if you want to make a living doing creative work you love, without having to win the creative career lottery of randomly going viral or being famous!

Our guest for the show today is musician and podcaster Cathy Heller. I wanted to have Cathy on the show because she is a living breathing example of what it looks like to have a thriving creative career through strategy, incremental progress and serving your audience AKA a CREATIVE PEP TALK CREATIVE!

She brings so many helpful perspectives, personal stories and ideas to the table that I am sure this will help you get inspired and get you unstuck!

Cathy is a musician by trade and she's made her living working with brands like McDonald's, Wal-Mart and Kellog's by providing them with beautiful for songs for their ads.

Cathy's podcast, Don't Keep Your Day Job, helps people get paid doing work they love. She's conducted interviews with the likes of Jenna Fischer, Seth Godin, Daniel Pink and Lisa Loeb!

Cathy's Interview With Me on her podcast:

https://www.dontkeepyourdayjob.com/episodes/andy-j-pizza

Cathy Heller

http://www.cathyheller.com/

https://www.instagram.com/cathy.heller/

Cathy's Dreamtopia Workshop

https://cathy-heller.teachable.com/p/live-event

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CREDITS

Patreon Patron Shoutout!

Thank you Nicholas Goodger! Check out Nicholas' work:

http://www.goodsir.co

Instagram: @nicholasgoodger

Support Creative Pep Talk on Patreon: www.patreon.com/creativepeptalk

Thanks to Yoni Wolf and the band WHY? for our theme music.

Thanks to Alex Sugg for editing and the podcast!

www.alexsugg.com

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