In the email exchange leading up to our conversation, my guest Kristina Marie wrote "The Hero is Dead."

That sentence stopped me in my tracks. It's a suspicion I've had for a while, but maybe there's still a part of me that doesn't want it to be true. "What do you mean? But I love my hero's journey stories!" that part protested.

In the episode, Kristina and I dove straight into this topic. 

We discussed: 

• The new myths we're living, telling, and weaving in the face of crumbling structures and collapsing old paradigms
• The difference between the mystic's journey and the hero or heroine's journey
• What a transformational story is
• The journey of becoming the person who can tell our own stories as its own unique process

It's a profound conversation and my mind was blown with epiphany after epiphany throughout.

Here's Kristina's bio:

For more than a decade, I worked as a journalist and an editor at top national magazines, including Travel + Leisure and T magazine at the New York Times. 

Since launching Voyages of the Spirit nine years ago, I’ve combined my publishing skills, intuitive gifts, and creative wisdom to mentor writers, leaders, visionaries, mystics, and storytellers. 

I guide my clients in structuring their transformational stories and birthing their books, awakening their creative genius, discovering their personal mythology, and building an ecosystem for their life’s work.

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