In the first Battleground: Ukraine podcast of 2025, Saul and Patrick speak to friend of the

podcast Askold Khruselnysky, who spent Christmas close the front lines with

a Ukrainian Unit specialising in innovative forms of drone warfare. In his dispatch from Kyiv he describes how this unit was able to successfully launch and carry out an assault with only unmanned vehicles in perhaps the first fully automated battle of the war.

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