Daniel catches up with Chris Cowley, Managing Director of CKJ Building Services, a family-owned construction company specialising in government and commercial projects across Sydney. From growing up in a small town of just 300 people to leading a major building organisation, Chris has built some of the country's largest private schools and heritage projects.

Daniel and Chris discuss the pros and cons of private schooling, why learning lessons can be one of the most expensive things you do, and the challenges facing the construction industry today. Chris shares how traditional values have shaped his life and career, leading to an incredible journey of success and resilience.