Chloé Valdary (@cvaldary) is the author of The Theory of Enchantment education course and an all around talented dame. We speak about her take on the black American experience, and how she is optimistic that the current civil unrest will lead to lasting change. We talk our way through the hitches and snags toward a better country and world—if only our common values can win out over our all too common temptations. 

Find her work on theoryofenchantment.com

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