Smarty Pants

#249: Know Your Earworm


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Why does your dad love bluegrass while your sister moshes to hardcore? Why do you still have a soft spot for that cheesy rock ballad you danced to in middle school? The question of why we like the music we like is as eternal as it is maddening. In This Is What It Sounds Like, Susan Rogers and Ogi Ogas offer an answer. Today, Rogers is a cognitive neuroscientist and a professor at Berklee College of Music—but before that, she was Prince’s chief engineer for his 1984 album, Purple Rain, and remains one of the most successful female record producers of all time. She has spent decades learning to listen, and This Is What It Sounds Like is a primer for understanding the concept of our innate “listener profile”—the dimensions of a song that our brains respond to. The book is an invitation to tune into musical self-awareness, and a celebration of the music that makes us feel most like ourselves, whoever we are.


Go beyond the episode:

  • This Is What It Sounds Like: What the Music You Love Says About You by Susan Rogers and Ogi Ogas
  • Listen along to all the songs in the book, including the ones sampled in this episode
  • Join the global record pull
  • Meet the Shaggs” in Susan Orleans’s introduction to one of music’s strangest legends
  • Previously in Listening 101 on Smarty Pants: learn how to love opera


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