We are back after a five-month hiatus, and we have so much to tell you.

About rest. About work. About creativity and parenting teenagers and the very Big Milestones coming up for us this year.

If you've been feeling overwhelmed and overcommitted, this conversation between two old friends is for you.

• The difference between stuffing vs savoring. 
• What is more exhausting -- parenting toddlers vs parenting teens--and why. 
• The thing we've hinted at is finally real and alive in the world. 
• Christie gets the closest she's ever come to setting a goal.

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