The Mindtools L&D Podcast

260 — Unlearning what we've learned


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The pandemic has been both a trigger and an opportunity for reflection and ultimately, change. We've had to forget, or "unlearn" our old ways.

This week on the The Mind Tools L&D Podcast, Gemma T and Ross D are joined by Mark Gilroy to discuss:

  • what 'unlearning' is
  • the link between unlearning and curiosity
  • how we can help each other to "unlearn" effectively.

Show notes

Mark recommended the following resources:

"How organisations Learn and Unlearn (Hedberg, 1981)" http://johnljerz.com/superduper/tlxdownloadsiteWEBSITEII/id167.html 

The Unpersuadables: Adventures with the Enemies of Science by Will Storr. Available at all good bookstores.

The B=MAT model: https://www.growthengineering.co.uk/bj-foggs-behavior-model/ 

Mark made a surprising claim about rainfall during "What I learned this week". Here's his data source: https://weather-and-climate.com/average-monthly-precipitation-Rainfall,London,United-Kingdom 

Ross talked about Iceland's four-day week, which you can read more about here: https://autonomy.work/portfolio/icelandsww/

Ross and Gemma referred to Adam Grant's book, Think again: https://www.adamgrant.net/book/think-again/

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Connect with our speakers

If you'd like to share your thoughts on this episode, connect with our speakers on Twitter:

  • Mark Gilroy @thatmarkgilroy
  • Ross Dickie @RossDickieEW
  • Gemma Towersey @gemmatowersey

You can also find out more about Mark's organisation, TMSDI.

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