Daniel catches up with Steve Grace, Founder of The Nudge Group, Curious Media, and The Pillars - ventures spanning recruitment, media, and Australia's newest ultra-premium members club. Known for scaling and selling companies, Steve has built a career on spotting opportunities others miss.

Daniel and Steve discuss the future of podcasting, the challenges of building a members club, and the lessons of starting and selling businesses, along with insights on burnout, co-founders, and why pioneering new ideas is both the hardest and most rewarding path.

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