Zuby is joined by mother-daughter duo, Helene Leeds and Penelope Popken — hosts of the Step It UP Podcast. Helene and Penelope sit down to discuss their personal journeys with health, wellness, and fitness, the challenges of obesity in a family dynamic and the health industry writ large. We dive

into the Body Positivity movement, weight-loss and enabling social behaviors, diet and personal responsibility, food regulations and a whole lot more.

Timestamps:

(00:00) Introduction

(09:55) Psychological impacts of obesity & enabling behaviour

(18:06) Body positivity differences between men & women

(25:13) What age should children use smart devices?

(26:55) Penelope’s weight loss process

(34:05) How Helen handled Penelope’s weight challenges

(39:59) The Body Positivity movement

(44:35) Algorithmic amplification vs genuine ideological alliance

(49:35) Diet & personal responsibility

(59:44) Dangers & addictions of sugar

(1:03:22) Food regulations & personal responsibility

(1:08:30) Toxic load management

(1:12:28) Societal alignment on definition of obesity & health

(1:20:16) ‘Wellcare’ & what to do now

(1:28:27) Outro

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