Tired of feeling sluggish, anxious, or short-tempered after drinking? In Part 2 of host Ellen Scanlon’s conversation with Katie Nessel, better known as Soberish Mom on Instagram, you’ll hear realistic ways to cut back without strict rules or guilt.

Katie shares the mindset shift that reframed everything for her: “what did you gain last night by drinking, and what did you lose?” She explains why counting the drinks you didn’t have can be more motivating than focusing on slip-ups, and how progress over perfection makes long-term change possible.

We also talk about the bigger cultural moment—why moms are leading the shift away from “mommy wine culture,” how new health data about alcohol is reshaping the conversation, and what real support looks like when you want to drink less.

Hosted by Ellen Scanlon

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