What if the greatest leader who ever lived was never actually called a “leader”?

This week on the LeadCulture Podcast, Jenni sits down with Lyle Wells—President of Integris Leadership, pastor, and author of the new book Easy to Follow—to unpack how Jesus modeled leadership through behaviors that made people want to follow Him.

Together, they explore how leadership is more than authority—it’s about influence, behavior, and the success of others. Lyle shares eight characteristics that make leaders easy to follow, why “teaching not telling” changes everything, and how generosity and intentional mentoring can reshape your culture.

You’ll also hear their honest reflections on today’s leadership landscape—from the crisis of confidence many young leaders feel, to the surprising reasons some are stepping away from management roles.

If you’ve ever wondered how to lead with greater influence, humility, and purpose—this episode will challenge and encourage you to reframe what great leadership truly looks like.

🎧 Listen now and learn how to lead in a way that others naturally want to follow.

Learn more about Lyle Wells, Integrus, and Easy to Follow. 

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