Episode Description
In this episode of the Lead Ministry Podcast, Josh Denhart and guest Vance Martin kick off a New Year series on productivity and progress in ministry. They introduce Vance’s “Progress Spiral,” a simple framework to evaluate, strategize, and execute in your ministry, starting with a deep dive into the probe phase. 

They explore how to honestly assess your people, processes, and programs across three core cultures – volunteers, parents, and kids – offering practical language and real stories to help ministry leaders diagnose what is actually happening on the ground before they start fixing anything.

If you've ever felt stuck in the same problems year after year, or frustrated that your changes never quite solve the real issues, this episode will equip and inspire you with a simple way to evaluate your ministry with clarity and courage.

Key Topics Covered
The Progress Spiral – a three-part framework for ongoing ministry improvement.
The Probe Phase – evaluating people, processes, and programs without fear or assumptions.
Hearing Hard Truth – why asking volunteers, parents, and kids for feedback builds trust and real change.

Key Quote
"Prognosis without diagnosis is malpractice."

Scripture References
Proverbs 27:23 – "Know well the condition of your flocks, and give attention to your herds."
Luke 14:28 – "For which of you, desiring to build a tower, does not first sit down and count the cost."

Takeaway
Before you rewrite your calendar, overhaul your programs, or launch something new, you must slow down and see reality as it is. When you humbly probe your people, processes, and programs – and invite honest feedback from those you serve – you discover where the real problems are and where God may be inviting you to grow. Diagnosis comes before prescription, and good leaders are willing to ask hard questions and listen well.

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