In this special anniversary episode, we invite you into a personal conversation as Javier and I reflect on 32 years of marriage—yes, 32! We’re sharing the highs, the lows, the lessons learned, and the laughter that’s carried us through more than three decades together.

You’ll hear real talk about what’s helped us grow stronger, the rhythms we’ve developed, and how we've navigated seasons of challenge and change. Whether you're newly married or decades in, we hope this episode encourages you, reminds you that you're not alone, and inspires you to celebrate your own journey—every step of the way.

Grab a cup of coffee and join us for this heart-to-heart. 

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The "Original" Marriage Flippers

Meet the Labradors—Javier and Shannan. Married 33 years, they’ve weathered the highs, lows, and everything in between—and now their mission is simple: to see marriages thrive, not just survive. As sought-after conference speakers, authors, podcast hosts, and creators of 24/7 Marriage Bootcamps—3-day intensives that help couples hit reset—they bring humor, honesty, and hard-won wisdom to every conversation.

Restoring Hope. Redeeming Stories. Rebuilding Strong Marriages.
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