DEPTH Work: A Holistic Mental Health Podcast

35. Redefining “Crazy” & The Initiation Process with Swaziland Healer Thabiso Mthimkhulu


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“You have a lot of sickness [in the United States] because people are trying to behave in a way that will look “normal,” but that’s one thing the body wasn’t created for: to behave, to be controlled, to live like you are in a prison. “ - Thabiso Mthimkhulu. 

What if “going crazy” was part of a larger process? What if it was a message from your body, your ancestors, or a wisdom larger than yourself? Thabiso, a traditional Swaziland Healer who moved to the U.S. in 2020, shares his story about training as a healer in a context where madness wasn’t stopped or something to be fixed, but rather the sign of a bigger calling.

We also discuss:

  • answering the “call” to be a healer and what the initiation process is like
  • the importance of letting people go “crazy” in order to heal
  • growing up in a context where healing, ancestral communication, and mystical experiences are normal
  • what healer training is like in Swaziland
  • flaws with western psychiatric systems compared to indigenous swaziland healing cultures
  • Links:

    Work with Thabiso: https://www.thabisoheals.com/

    Thabiso on IG: https://www.instagram.com/thabisoheals/


    Get bonus episodes on substack! ⁠⁠https://depthwork.substack.com/⁠⁠


    Work with Jazmine: https://www.jazminerussell.com/book


    Reclaiming All Parts of You: Healing Shame Workbook & Meditation :  ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://witty-creator-9045.ck.page/e89cafda64⁠⁠⁠⁠


    Disclaimer: The DEPTH Work Podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Information on this podcast in no way to be construed or substituted as psychological counseling, psychotherapy, mental health counseling, or any other type of therapy or medical advice.

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