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I’m so excited about this episode with the amazing Erika Carley, Chief Impact Officer at National Angels (and one of the smartest donor retention minds I know).
If you’ve ever said, “We just need more donors,” STOP. What you really need is to keep the donors you already have — and Erica is here to show us how.
In this episode, we dive deep into:
✨ Why donor retention should be your first priority
✨ The “golden donation” (spoiler: it’s the second gift)
✨ How to make donors feel something — and why that matters
✨ Real stewardship strategies: handwritten cards, voice memos, texts, stickers… even angel wings!
✨ What it means to create belonging for your donors
One of my favorite takeaways? It’s not about the number of stewardship touches — it’s about the quality and the consistency. And yes, we even talk about ghosting donors… and being ghosted 😬
If you do nothing else this year, please — I beg you — look at your donor retention numbers. This episode will give you the tools (and hopefully the inspiration) to turn those numbers around.
Important Links:
Zeffy: https://www.zeffy.com/?ref=Rhea
Connect with Erika: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erika-carley123/
How to Train ChatGPT: https://go.rheawong.com/annual-fundraising-plan-tracker1-3127-4300
My Big Ask Gifts Program: https://go.rheawong.com/big-ask-gifts-program
My Book, Get That Money Honey: https://go.rheawong.com/get-that-money-honey
My Newsletter: https://www.rheawong.com/
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I’m so excited about this episode with the amazing Erika Carley, Chief Impact Officer at National Angels (and one of the smartest donor retention minds I know).
If you’ve ever said, “We just need more donors,” STOP. What you really need is to keep the donors you already have — and Erica is here to show us how.
In this episode, we dive deep into:
✨ Why donor retention should be your first priority
✨ The “golden donation” (spoiler: it’s the second gift)
✨ How to make donors feel something — and why that matters
✨ Real stewardship strategies: handwritten cards, voice memos, texts, stickers… even angel wings!
✨ What it means to create belonging for your donors
One of my favorite takeaways? It’s not about the number of stewardship touches — it’s about the quality and the consistency. And yes, we even talk about ghosting donors… and being ghosted 😬
If you do nothing else this year, please — I beg you — look at your donor retention numbers. This episode will give you the tools (and hopefully the inspiration) to turn those numbers around.
Important Links:
Zeffy: https://www.zeffy.com/?ref=Rhea
Connect with Erika: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erika-carley123/
How to Train ChatGPT: https://go.rheawong.com/annual-fundraising-plan-tracker1-3127-4300
My Big Ask Gifts Program: https://go.rheawong.com/big-ask-gifts-program
My Book, Get That Money Honey: https://go.rheawong.com/get-that-money-honey
My Newsletter: https://www.rheawong.com/

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