No way this wasn't going to be unusual, but I wanted to talk with Oron, a friend, and see how he was doing. It's a good talk - not as light-hearted as the first time Oron was on the podcast, understandably. We'd normally have done it face-to-face, like we did the first time he was on, and in fact I had flights and a Tel Aviv apartment all booked, planning to arrive on 14 October and do events and tastings for genever and vermouth, some of them at Oron's group's bars. That didn't happen, of course. We agreed beforehand we aren't experts on the region or its history; Oron himself said he wasn't entirely sure about the origins of the conflicts, and if he isn't, I certainly am not. This is a conversation between friends, checking in. 

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