Zuby is joined by Jamie Mustard, who grew up within the world of Scientology. Jamie recounts his earliest memories inside the organisation, from indoctrination and control drills, to the harsh realities for children in the system.

The conversation explores the family separations, labour expectations, and ideological conditioning that shaped his youth. They discuss the organisation's current state, the treatment of children, and the psychological impact on families. Jamie also shares stories from his book 'Child X: A Memoir of Slavery, Poverty, Celebrity, and Scientology', offering a rare inside look at a secretive and controversial group.

Timestamps:

(00:00) Introduction

(00:25) The Lost Children of Scientology

(03:04) Early Years

(12:06) Life in Scientology: Childhood Experiences

(13:43) Understanding Scientology Beliefs

(16:07) Childhood Indoctrination and Abuse

(18:52) Life in the System: Daily Struggles

(29:36) Family Dynamics and Estrangement

(34:20) Current State of Scientology

(36:58) The Role of Nannies in the Organization

(37:19) Children as Future Labor

(38:22) Scientology's Ideology and Practices

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