Today I'm talking with Pat Hiban, the man, the myth, the legend.  A true real estate rockstar. He's held the title of number one agent in the world at both Re/Max and Keller Williams.  

He's currently the host of The Real Estate Rock Stars Podcast, and he runs Rebus University.  

And in our chat today, we're going to cover the role of personal branding and media and how Pat has used that to really propel where he is at today and to build a media empire.  And to have a pretty big footprint within the real estate space.

So, if you are thinking about diving into media, if the thought has crossed your mind if you're attracted to that strategy but unsure what the return is going to be, this is the episode for you.