In this episode, we dive into why so many surfers are also obsessed with golf, before getting into the key differences between free surfers and competition surfers. What drives these two worlds, and how do they shape the future of the sport? We also take a look at how surfers can actually make a living in 2025 - hint: it’s not just about contest wins. Grab your board (and maybe a golf club) and join us for some surf talk!