In this jam-packed double-guest episode, Kenny and Robert begin the show chatting with Serj Tankian, Grammy-winning singer/songwriter, rockstar frontman of System of a Down and rising star film composer. Serj shares why he made the decision to jump into film composing, recalls the exact moment he decided to make music his career and what Robert Kraft told him the first time they met in 2008 that ended up coming true, reveals when he fell in love with the orchestra, and explains why making another System of a Down album isn't off the table.

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Later, the Emmy-nominated composer duo of Saunder Jurriaans & Danny Bensi join the show sharing stories of starting a band together in New York and how and why they transitioned into film music, working with Jason Bateman and the unique way they got the gig for Ozark, what makes them select a documentary project and why they love taking on a project that takes them out of their comfort zone.

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Hosts: Robert Kraft & Kenny Holmes

Executive Producer: Matt Schrader

Coordinator: Carol Kuswanto

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