Daniel Tiluk and Have Hope discuss African teams at the Club World Cup despite some good showings, the impressive performances of South American teams, the relative underperformance of European teams and excuses of heat, tiredness, and indifference. At what point will football's popularity wane given the amount of football on offer and the demand on player's bodies, and is women's football the next place for growth?

Before the podcast: On Nigerian weddings and Zohran Mamdani.

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