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We've got a special episode this week as Ben Harrow, Kyle's former ODA commander, joined us on the pod! The two discuss how they met, Ben's path to an ODA, and the difficulties of starting a podcast.

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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro

3:03 Meeting & Deploying to Afghanistan

17:42 Gifts

22:07 Why Ben Went to West Point

30:57 Thinking Outside the Box

36:52 Kyle’s Motivation to Try Again

40:23 Working Out Together

42:19 Linking Up Over the Years

45:32 Sobriety & How to Pray

59:27 The Struggles of Podcasting

1:13:07 Outro