Turning Towards Life - a Thirdspace podcast

452: The Real AI


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Some people have the patience to sit with the right problem instead of fixing the wrong one. They ask the question that actually needs asking, don’t accept our stories at face value, and get to the real thing waiting to be said. They see what we’re actually struggling with, not the account we offer. They are quiet, patient, kind, curious, and deep enough for us to speak about what matters. They know when to wait and when to act. This capacity lives between and within us. It can grow and be practiced. And the world needs it now.

This week's Turning Towards Life is hosted as always by Lizzie Winn and Justin Wise of Thirdspace.

This is Turning Towards Life, a weekly live 30 minute conversation hosted by Thirdspace in which Justin Wise and Lizzie Winn dive deep into big questions of human living. Find us on FaceBook to join in the lively conversation on this episode. You can find videos of every episode, and more about the project on the Turning Towards Life website, and you can also watch and listen on Instagram, YouTube, and as a podcast in all the usual podcast places.

Our source for this week:

The real AI

To quote the great Steve Wozniak, “Actual Intelligence.” The kind we’re born with and can develop if we choose. It’s worth more now than ever before. Alas, it’s rarely taught in school.

The difficult work of making choices.

The act of curation.

The responsibility of putting your name on it.

The judgment to ask the right questions and skip the other ones.

The imperative to ship useful work.

The pursuit of good taste.

The patience to sit with the right problem rather than solving the wrong one.

The generosity to create for someone specific.

Seeking justice.

Offering dignity.

Knowing when to stop.

Investing in deep empathy, not a shallow substitute.

Taking initiative and doing the reading.

Being patient, or impatient, depending on what’s needed.

Ignoring the noise.

Making something that matters.

Caring.

Seth Godin
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