November 12, 2025

464: When the Marriage Is OVER. Lysa TerKeurst on Narcissistic Abuse 101, Ending Self-Betrayal, and Why Unhealthy People Never Meet a Boundary They Like

49 minutes

There's a moment when "endure it" becomes "end it," not because you stopped believing in God's power to heal, but because refusing to betray your God-given boundaries is how you stop betraying yourself. This week on Win Today, Lysa TerKeurst joins me to confront the realities so many live in silence: when it's biblically wise to end a marriage, how we talk ourselves out of our own boundaries, why loneliness is sometimes God's operating room, and what you must know about narcissistic abuse—gaslighting, trauma bonds, and DARVO—so you can name what's happening and get safe. If you've been praying for clarity while living in chaos, this conversation is a lifeline.

Guest Bio

Lysa TerKeurst is President and Chief Visionary Officer of Proverbs 31 Ministries and a #1 New York Times bestselling author. Having walked through public heartbreak and private rebuilding, she helps people leave destructive patterns with biblical clarity and practical courage. Today isn't about her résumé; it's about your safety, your sanity, and your future.

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