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What if our thirst for more is an invitation to come closer to Jesus? In this special episode, Stasi shares chapter 1 of her new book The Ladder of Love; A Pathway to Emotional Healing and Spiritual Intimacy with Jesus. The chapter “Why a Ladder?”, explores the joy of knowing Jesus and being known by him, even in the places we may hesitate to bring near. Stasi ends with a guided Selah prayer, allowing room for us to pause in his presence and respond to his gentle invitation: come close.
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VERSES:
Matthew 7:7 (NIV) – Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
James 4:8 (NIV) – Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded.
Ephesians 3:17 (NIV) – so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love,
Ephesians 1:17 (NIV) – I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better.
Hosea 2:19–20 (NIV) – I will betroth you to me forever; I will betroth you in righteousness and justice, in love and compassion. I will betroth you in faithfulness, and you will acknowledge the LORD.
John 17:3 (NIV) – Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
John 4:6–18 (NIV) – The woman at the well: … Jesus answered her, "If you knew the gift of God and who it is that asks you for a drink, you would have asked him and he would have given you living water."
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What if we could know God more deeply, beyond what we know about him? In this episode, Stacey Burton turns the tables and interviews Stasi about what she is so passionate about - the message of her new book, The Ladder of Love: A Pathway to Emotional Healing and Spiritual Intimacy with Jesus, releasing October 6th! Together they explore how God draws us closer, rung by rung, from being clay in our Potter's hands to enjoying friendship with Jesus to, well, endlessly upward! Wherever you are on the journey, God is always inviting you closer to his heart.
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Ladder Of Love: A pathway to emotional healing and spiritual intimacy with Jesus by Stasi Eldredge (Oct 6, 2026)
Visit this link to preorder by October 5, and also claim your free Journaling Guide after ordering. https://wildatheart.org/the-ladder-of-love
VERSES:
Matthew 11:28 (NIV) – Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.
Genesis 2:7 (NIV) – Then the LORD God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.
Isaiah 64:8 (NIV) – Yet you, LORD, are our Father. We are the clay, you are the potter; we are all the work of your hand.
Ephesians 2:10 (NLT) – For we are God’s masterpiece. He has created us anew in Christ Jesus, so we can do the good things he planned for us long ago.
John 10:11 (NIV) – I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep.
Luke 15:4 (NIV) – Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn't he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep until he finds it?
John 10:27 (NIV) – My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.
Hebrews 4:16 (NIV) – Let us then approach God's throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.
Romans 8:17 (NIV) – Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory.
Psalm 25:14 (NIV) – The LORD confides in those who fear him; he makes his covenant known to them.
John 15:15 (NIV) – I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.
Song of Songs 8:5 (NIV) – Who is this coming up from the wilderness leaning on her beloved? Under the apple tree I roused you; there your mother conceived you, there she who was in labor gave you birth.
Isaiah 61:1 (NIV) – The Spirit of the Sovereign LORD is on me, because the LORD has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners,
Matthew 16:15 (NIV) – "But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?"
John 17:3 (NIV) – Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
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RESOURCES
The Daily Prayer from Wild at Heart – Also available within the Pause App or on the Wild at Heart App. https://wahe.art/4e1NSIg
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What if the places where trust feels hardest are the very places Jesus longs to meet us? Stasi welcomes Susie Larson to talk about her new book, “More Than You Can Imagine”, and how God meets us in disappointment, suffering, and fear. With compassion and hard-won wisdom, Susie invites us to know God more deeply, trust his goodness, and open our hearts to the healing and freedom he offers.
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SUSIE LARSON
Book: More Than You Can Imagine: What God Does When You Trust Him (August 11, 2026); order here: https://wahe.art/3SO1r9f
Website:https://www.susielarson.com/
Radio – Susie Larson Live:https://www.myfaithradio.com/programs/susie-larson-live/
Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/susielarsonauthor/
Facebook:https://www.facebook.com/susielarsonauthor
SUSIE’S BIO
Susie Larson is a talk radio host and podcaster with over 17 million downloads; a national speaker, and bestselling author known for her passion for helping people live in the fullness of God’s promises. Through her writing and broadcast ministry, she encourages audiences to walk in freedom, faith, courage, and spiritual authority. Larson’s work is marked by biblical depth, personal honesty, and a strong belief in God’s power to heal, restore, and redeem. She lives in Minnesota with her husband, Kevin.
Susie’s photo credit: Tammy Brice Creative
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VERSES:
Hebrews 12:2 (NIV) – Fixing our eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of faith. For the joy set before him he endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God
Ephesians 3:19 (NIV) – And to know this love that surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God
Psalm 34:18 (NIV) – The Lord is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit
Ephesians 3:20 (NIV) – Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according to his power that is at work within us
Acts 26:28 (NIV) – Then Agrippa said to Paul, “Do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a Christian?”
1 Kings 18:21 (NIV) – Elijah went before the people and said, “How long will you waver between two opinions? If the Lord is God, follow him; but if Baal is God, follow him.” But the people said nothing
Matthew 11:3 (NIV) – To ask him, “Are you the one who is to come, or should we expect someone else?”
Matthew 11:4–6 (NIV) – Jesus replied, “Go back and report to John what you hear and see: The blind receive sight, the lame walk, those who have leprosy are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is proclaimed to the poor. Blessed is anyone who does not stumble on account of me.”
Matthew 11:11 (NIV) – Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he
John 15:5 (NIV) – “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.”
Psalm 18:19 (NIV) – He brought me out into a spacious place; he rescued me because he delighted in me
Romans 9:13 (NIV) – Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”
Ephesians 2:6 (NIV) – And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus
2 Corinthians 4:7 (NIV) – But we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this all-surpassing power is from God and not from us
Psalm 40:3 (NIV) – He put a new song in my mouth, a hymn of praise to our God. Many will see and fear the Lord and put their trust in him
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What if the ache within us is not something to push through alone, but an invitation toward healing? Stasi welcomes her son, counselor Sam Eldredge, for a tender conversation about loneliness, vulnerability, relationships, and the courage to face our stories honestly. Wherever we feel stuck or alone, Jesus is near—gently inviting us to open our hearts, receive the care we need, and follow him into freedom, restoration, and more life than we imagined possible.
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VERSES:
Revelation 1:18 (NIV) – I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.
Genesis 2:18 (NIV) – The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”
Proverbs 27:17 (NIV) – As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another.
Isaiah 61:1 (NIV) – The Spirit of the Sovereign Lord is on me, because the Lord has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim freedom for the captives and release from darkness for the prisoners.
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SAM ELDREDGE
Website: https://www.nobleworkshops.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nobleworkshops
SAM’S BIO
Sam Eldredge has spent his career in the space where psychology and faith meet. Trained in the modalities that form the backbone of Noble's work such as Internal Family Systems, experiential therapy, somatic practice, attachment theory, and EMDR-informed movement, he has spent over two decades watching what happens when people are given the right conditions to do the work they have been carrying.
Noble Workshops grew out of that watching.
Sam grew up immersed in the world of the heart. His formation was shaped deeply by the work of Wild at Heart, an organization that has spent decades helping people recover their inner lives and understand the story they are living. That foundation shaped his understanding of what people are actually hungering for: genuine movement, not just information. The freedom that comes when something long stuck finally begins to shift.
Noble was Sam's response to a gap he kept seeing: people who had done meaningful work, who had language for their pain and faith in the possibility of change, and who still couldn't find a structure that allowed that change to actually take root. Weekly therapy sessions, however skilled the guide, have limits. Immersion changes what is possible.
He founded Noble to offer something different. A week held with clinical rigor and genuine care, set apart from ordinary life, where the work can finally build on itself rather than reset on longer timelines.
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ADDITIONAL RESOURCES
Painting: The Harrowing of Hades
AndSons Podcast Archives: https://wildatheart.org/podcasts/and-sons
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Continuing their listener Q&A conversation, John and Stasi respond to questions on topics such as discernment, spiritual warfare, and what it means to mature in our walk with Jesus and caring for our souls in a demanding world. With honesty, and wisdom, they explore how Jesus meets us in the realities of everyday life—inviting us beyond fear, pressure, and striving into greater freedom, maturity, and intimacy with Him. Wherever you find yourself today, may this conversation awaken fresh hope and draw you further into the presence, Love, and Hope of Jesus.
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If you haven’t listened to Part 1 — E127 | Parenting Continues: Loving Your Adult Children — you can do so here: https://youtu.be/FIH6S3J3m9w
VERSES:
1 John 2:12–14 (NIV) – I am writing to you, dear children, because your sins have been forgiven on account of his name. I am writing to you, fathers, because you know him who is from the beginning.
I am writing to you, young men, because you have overcome the evil one. I write to you, dear children, because you know the Father. I write to you, fathers, because you know him who is from the beginning. I write to you, young men, because you are strong, and the word of God lives in you, and you have overcome the evil one.
Matthew 7:16 (NIV) – By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
James 4:7 (NIV) – Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
Genesis 1:1–3 (NIV) – In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
Colossians 1:13–14 (NIV) – For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
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RESOURCES
Love and War: Find Your Way to Something Beautiful in Your Marriage by John & Stasi Eldredge https://wahe.art/4sfsE0N
Experience Jesus. Really: Finding Refuge, Strength, and Wonder through Everyday Encounters with God by John Eldredge https://amzn.to/4jEwBZ7
Explore the Pause App – Includes the One Minute Pause, 30 Days to Resilience, the Experience Jesus 20-day program, and the Evening Review series. https://www.pauseapp.com/
The Daily Prayer from Wild at Heart – Also available within the Pause App or on the Wild at Heart App. https://wahe.art/4e1NSIg
Lectio 365: https://wahe.art/3Ckq7xG
Pray As You Go: https://pray-as-you-go.org
Ruling Your Kingdom Series – Podcast Series from Wild at Heart: https://wahe.art/4vdea3f
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What does mature love look like as our children grow up, grow away, and build lives of their own? In this honest and tender conversation, John and Stasi Eldredge explore the grief, freedom, forgiveness, and trust woven into parenting adult children. Together they invite us to release control, entrust our hearts to Jesus, and discover the love that keeps the doors open. Wherever this conversation finds us, may we find fresh grace to love with open hands and trust everything, and everyone, to Jesus.
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What if one of the gifts our hearts need most is beauty? In this gentle reflection, Stasi invites us to pause and receive the nourishment God offers through His creation, allowing its beauty to remind us of the beauty of our King. She also turns our gaze toward a deeper Hope: Jesus reigns over all things, and the day is coming when He will make all things new. As Captivated continues its July break, join us in taking a moment to soak in His beauty and goodness.
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VERSES:
Zechariah 14:9 (NIV) – The Lord will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one Lord, and his name the only name.
Philippians 2:10–11 (NIV) – that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Revelation 21:5 (NIV) – He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”
Acts 3:21 (NIV) – Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets.
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Wherever today finds you—whether in joy, uncertainty, hope, discouragement, or somewhere in between—Jesus is near. Join Stasi as she offers a simple invitation to pause and welcome His presence into the very places we are living today. As the Captivated Podcast takes a short break during July, may these few moments remind us that we are never alone. Jesus is with us, for us, and eager to meet us in the realities of our lives. Join us in taking a moment to open the doors of our hearts once again and invite Him into it all.
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VERSES:
Hebrews 13:5 (NIV) – Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you."
Revelation 3:20 (NIV) – Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me.
John 15:4 (NIV) – Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.
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In Part 2 of this conversation, Stasi welcomes back Blaine Eldredge, Director of Spiritual Formation at Wild at Heart, to continue unpacking the mystery of beauty—the beauty that flows from our intimacy with Jesus. Together they explore the vulnerability and courage it takes to let our true selves be seen in a world that wounds beauty so deeply, and the healing ways Jesus continues to draw near with tenderness, restoration, and a love that calls out the beauty within us. Come and rediscover the beauty of God alive in us.
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VERSES:
John 15:9 (NIV) – As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my love.
1 John 4:19 (NIV) – We love because he first loved us.
John 8:3–11 (NIV) – The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” ... Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” “No one, sir,” she said. “Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”
Hosea 2:19 (NIV) – I will betroth you to me forever; I will betroth you in righteousness and justice, in love and compassion.
Romans 8:22 (NIV) – We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.
Revelation 21:5 (NIV) – He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!”
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CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Returning to the Mystery of Beauty
01:42 Beauty That Builds Relationship
07:10 What True Beauty Really Is
13:48 The Vulnerability of Being Seen
18:50 Beauty That Risks Love
24:03 Why the Enemy Attacks Beauty
30:20 The Beauty of a Forgiving Heart
33:22 Jesus and the Woman Accused
38:47 What Jesus Does to Win Our Love
43:08 Becoming Beautiful to Jesus
46:07 Carrying Beauty Into Our Relationships
47:24 Closing Prayer and Blessing
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RESOURCES
If you haven’t listened to Part 1 — E123 | Beauty, Vulnerability, and the Heart of God — you can do so here:
YouTube: https://youtu.be/crrX6S-P5NI
Wild at Heart App: https://wahe.art/3SfAXge
Captivating: Unveiling the Mystery of a Woman's Soul by John and Stasi Eldredge https://wahe.art/3L9tLMc
Becoming Myself: Embracing God's Dream of You by Stasi Eldredge https://amzn.to/4hzdQUL
The Gifts of Imperfection: Let Go of Who You Think You're Supposed to Be and Embrace Who You Are by Brené Brown https://amzn.to/4vk2NpW
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Stasi invites Blaine Eldredge, our Director of Spiritual Formation at Wild at Heart, for a conversation about recapturing beauty—not the exhausting beauty our culture demands, but the deeply personal beauty that originates in the heart of God. Together they explore how Jesus reveals a beauty that is vulnerable, relational, and inviting; a beauty that isn’t based on performance, but draws us into His love. Come and rediscover the beauty that moves our hearts toward Him. This is Part 1 of a 2-part conversation.
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VERSES:
Genesis 2:18 (NIV) – The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”
Exodus 33:11 (NIV) – The Lord would speak to Moses face to face, as one speaks to a friend.
Deuteronomy 34:10 (NIV) – Since then, no prophet has risen in Israel like Moses, whom the Lord knew face to face.
Song of Songs 2:14 (NIV) – My dove in the clefts of the rock, in the hiding places on the mountainside, show me your face, let me hear your voice; for your voice is sweet, and your face is lovely.
Hebrews 12:18–24 (NIV) – You have not come to a mountain that can be touched and that is burning with fire; to darkness, gloom and storm; to a trumpet blast or to such a voice speaking words that those who heard it begged that no further word be spoken to them… But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem… to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant.
2 Corinthians 3:18 (NIV) – And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.
John 4:16–18 (NIV) – He told her, “Go, call your husband and come back.” “I have no husband,” she replied. Jesus said to her, “You are right when you say you have no husband. The fact is, you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband.”
2 Kings 17:24–41 (NIV) – Clearly referenced in the discussion of the Samaritan people being brought from five nations associated with false gods and attempting to worship Yahweh alongside them.
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RESOURCES
The Green Ember by S.D. Smith https://amzn.to/4dyvZCh
The Prophets by Abraham Joshua Heschel https://amzn.to/4wUgygG
The Sabbath by Abraham Joshua Heschel https://amzn.to/4nEW8np
God in Search of Man: A Philosophy of Judaism by Abraham Joshua Heschel https://amzn.to/49cEn99
Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics by Aristotle https://amzn.to/495TaCE
Creation and Fall: A Theological Exposition of Genesis 1-3 by Dietrich Bonhoeffer https://amzn.to/4tPgr3h
Jesus of Nazareth: From the Baptism in the Jordan to the Transfiguration by Joseph Ratzinger (Pope Benedict XVI) https://amzn.to/3RvX3dV
The Glory of the Lord by Hans Urs von Balthasar https://amzn.to/4wEjTA5
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CHAPTER TIMESTAMPS
00:00 The Beauty That Captures Our Hearts
01:52 Jesus Pursuing the Hearts of Our Children
06:11 Why Beauty Begins in God
07:41 The Danger of “Instagram Face”
11:12 How Empire Erases Personhood
14:19 The False Beauty of Invulnerability
17:19 Beauty, Limits, and Being Human
19:42 Why the World Loves Artificial Beauty
22:25 The Enemy’s War Against True Beauty
24:14 When Beauty Becomes Power
26:14 The Beauty That Invites Relationship
28:15 The Trinity and Relational Love
30:23 God’s Desire to See Our Faces
33:09 Jesus’ Beauty Is Deeply Personal
34:45 Vulnerability at the Heart of Beauty
36:11 Choosing Intimacy Over Universal Approval
39:08 Why Every Woman Bears Beauty
40:10 The Beauty of the Crucified Christ
41:50 Jesus’ Beauty Pursues Our Hearts
42:58 The Samaritan Woman and Divine Love
45:59 The Lordliness and Goodness of Jesus
47:12 Becoming Like the One We Behold
48:15 Closing Prayer
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