Dr. Shiloh hosts the L.A. Not So Confidential podcast along with co-host, Dr. Scott.  On their podcast, each week the two forensic psychologist take a deep dive into some of the darkest corners of true crime.  They help us to understand the WHY.  Why would someone commit such a horrific crime?  In today’s episode, Dr. Shiloh and Bob talk about the case of John Orr.  Orr was one of the world’s most notorious serial arsonists.  And here’s the plot twist.  He was an arson investigator, who investigated his own crimes!

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