Today's episode is with Joe Carlesare, a litigation attorney and partner at Amundsen Davis LLC who is an active investor and proponent of Bitcoin since 2015.

As a former lawyer, it was refreshing talking to someone who has their finger on the pulse when it comes to all things Bitcoin and law.

This was a wide-ranging conversation on all manner of topics from macro through to Bitcoin and crypto litigation matters of the day. Overall, I found Joe to be highly credible, informed and a delight to chat to - frankly, could have spoken with him for hours!

Timestamps:

(0:02:51) – Macro big picture, monetary and fiscal policy

(0:06:38) – DXY explained and Bitcoin

 (0:12:29) – BTC store of value v medium of exchange

(0:20:02) – Bitcoin models

(0:25:30) – Bitcoin ETF in-kind redemptions

(0:28:48) – Grayscale ETF outflows

(0:34:10) – RIAs and the Bitcoin message

(0:37:10) – Michael Saylor playbook

(0:40:45) – Coinbase lawsuit against the SEC

(0:49:58) – ETH as an unregistered security

(0:55:22) – Catalyst for the next Bitcoin boom

Joe can be found on X ( @JoeCarlasare) or alternatively, visit https://www.amundsendavislaw.com/professionals-Joe-Carlasare if you have any legal matters you need to discuss with him.

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Much love everybody!