Stephen Perrenod is an astrophysicist and technology consultant with over 30 years of experience in high performance computing. He’s the author of two books on cosmology and has been writing and speaking about Bitcoin for a decade.

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00:00 - Introduction to Stephen Perrenod and Bitcoin Journey

03:02 - Understanding Bitcoin's Security and Network Effects

05:49 - The Concept of Money 3.0 and Its Significance

08:55 - Exploring Power Laws in Bitcoin's Growth

11:36 - The Role of Cryptography and Mining in Bitcoin

14:55 - The Dynamics of Bitcoin's Value and Market Behavior

17:43 - The Influence of Events on Bitcoin's Power Law

20:38 - The Future of Bitcoin and Its Adoption Potential

39:11 - The Future of Bitcoin as a Financial Asset

42:01 - Supply Dynamics and Market Behavior

48:26 - Network Effects and Adoption Trajectories

50:17 - Potential Market Cap Hurdles for Bitcoin

53:26 - Volatility, Stability, and Institutional Adoption

58:26 - Understanding Bitcoin's Market Efficiency

01:01:37 - The Importance of Long-Term Perspectives

01:08:02 - Path to Bitcoin's Future Valuation

01:08:21 - Forecasting Bitcoin's Growth and Bubbles

01:13:13 - Market Dynamics: Retail vs. Corporate Interest

01:15:19 - The Network Effect and Adoption

01:17:20 - Understanding the Kelly Criterion for Investment

01:22:47 - Timeframes and Portfolio Allocation Strategies

01:27:39 - Liquidity's Role in Bitcoin's Market

01:35:00 - Bitcoin's Technological Evolution Compared to Other Innovations

ℹ️ EPISODE SUMMARY

Bram Kanstein and Stephen Perrenod explore Bitcoin as 'Money 3.0', focusing on its mathematical foundations and energy-based value proposition. The discussion centers on power laws governing Bitcoin's exponential growth patterns and the network effects driving adoption.Key mathematical concepts include Bitcoin's supply constraints creating predictable scarcity dynamics, market efficiency through volatility patterns, and the Kelly Criterion for optimal investment sizing. Perrenod highlights how Bitcoin's growth follows similar power law distributions seen in other revolutionary technologies.The conversation examines Bitcoin's market cap trajectory toward $1 million per coin, analyzing liquidity triggers for market bubbles and institutional adoption mathematics. They emphasize Bitcoin's technological evolution mirrors other network-effect innovations, where value increases exponentially with user adoption rather than linearly.The mathematical thesis: Bitcoin's fixed supply algorithm combined with growing network adoption creates a deflationary asset with predictable long-term price appreciation, making the million-dollar target a mathematical probability rather than speculation.

Boyd Cohen, PhD, is a globally recognized expert at the intersection of sustainability, entrepreneurship, and Bitcoin. He serves as a Business School Director and as Strategic Advisor to Jan3. He recently published his latest book, Bitcoin Singularity, which envisions how Bitcoin can catalyze a more resilient and abundant global economy.› https://x.com/boydcohen› Bitcoin Singularity: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F84CJX6F

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00:00 - Introduction and Background

05:04 - Experiencing Currency Controls in Argentina

10:09 - Understanding Money and Freedom

15:03 - The Role of Bitcoin in Economic Freedom

19:50 - Transitioning from Ethereum to Bitcoin

24:56 - The Importance of Open-Mindedness

29:58 - Bitcoin as a Remedy for Artificial Scarcity

30:30 - The Illusion of Value and Abundance

34:44 - Redefining Identity in a Post-Consumerism World

37:49 - Bridging the Gap: Bitcoin and Sustainability

41:55 - Paradigm Asymmetry: Understanding Bitcoin's Resistance

47:23 - The Future of Education and Bitcoin Awareness

53:35 - The Path to Hyper Bitcoinization and Its Implications

59:05 - Empathy and Wealth in a Bitcoin Economy

01:01:25 - Meritocracy and Innovation in Business

01:05:11 - Self-Actualization and Transitioning to Hyper Bitcoinization

01:14:12 - The Future of Lending in a Bitcoin World

ℹ️ EPISODE SUMMARY

Bram Kanstein and Boyd Cohen discuss how how Boyd, even with a Ph.D., didn’t understand Bitcoin—until it rewired how he saw energy, incentives, and power. In this episode, Bram unpacks Boyd’s intellectual journey from climate tech professor to Bitcoin maximalist, and how Bitcoin challenged everything he thought he knew. They explore how fiat erodes meaning, why academia gets it wrong, and what a Bitcoin-based civilization could actually look like. This conversation is raw, disruptive, and rooted in hard-earned clarity. If you think you're too smart to fall for fiat—you’re probably wrong.

Axel Raven is a Hard Money and Bitcoin advocate known for their his TikTok and X posts on hard money, decentralization, and the flaws of fiat systems. Blending first-principles thinking with cultural critique, they challenge conventional financial narratives and champion Bitcoin as a transformative force. Axel’s unique perspective resonates with those seeking financial sovereignty in a digital age.

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00:00:00 - Introduction00:03:38 - Started Noticing This00:07:44 - Becomes Serious Topic ️00:12:27 - Zimbabwe Dollar00:16:22 - Mathematical Side00:20:15 - Hard Currency Impact 00:23:54 - Putting Things Back ️00:27:44 - Currency Wiped Out00:31:15 - Bitcoin Seedwords00:35:32 - Psychology Impact00:39:14 - Financial Bubble 00:42:54 - Old School Money00:47:01 - Bitcoin Clarifies00:51:38 - Missing the Best00:55:26 - Bitcoin's Potential00:59:07 - Money Philosophy01:02:30 - Road to One Bitcoin

ℹ️ EPISODE SUMMARY

Bram Kanstein and Axel Raven discuss the five key signals that reveal whether a civilization is thriving or collapsing—tying Bitcoin, health, agency, and spiritual clarity into one integrated frame. We explore how fiat incentives corrode everything from your nervous system to your portfolio, and why most people are trapped in self-destruction they mistake for progress. From seed oils to digital addiction, Axel shows how the smallest inputs shape the biggest outcomes. This isn’t just critique—it’s a blueprint for reclaiming direction. If you want to thrive while the system decays, start here.

Michael Tanguma is the Co-Founder and CEO of Onramp, a pioneering bitcoin asset management platform that offers innovative multi-institution custody solutions. With a robust background in financial services and technology, Michael is dedicated to bridging the gap between traditional finance and the evolving Bitcoin landscape.

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00:00 - The Great Awakening: Shifting Mental Models

02:45 - Adapting to Technological Acceleration

05:13 - The Intersection of AI, Bitcoin, and Society

07:25 - The Future of Work and Education

09:48 - The Role of Ideas in a Changing Economy

12:35 - Navigating the Shock of Change

15:55 - The Evolution of Money and Value

18:33 - The Future of Children in a New World

32:30 - Geopolitical Influences on Bitcoin Adoption

35:18 - Corporate Treasury Companies: Asymmetric Bets

38:36 - The Role of Bitcoin in Financial Systems

44:37 - Navigating Distractions in the Crypto Space

50:09 - Group Think and Individual Thought in Bitcoin

56:06 - Energy Markets and Bitcoin's Future

59:10 - The Peer-to-Peer Revolution of Bitcoin

ℹ️ EPISODE SUMMARY

Bram Kanstein and Michael Tanguma tackle one of the most important questions facing investors today:

What happens when Bitcoin goes mainstream—and most institutions still don’t understand what they’re holding?

They unpack why corporate and sovereign adoption will be the ultimate stress test for conviction, and how most portfolios are built on narratives, not first principles. Michael brings deep experience in risk management and macro strategy to explain why Bitcoin is misunderstood, mispriced, and mispositioned—especially by the people adopting it.

This conversation covers:

🔶 Why corporate adoption is a high-pressure signal test🔶 How traditional finance traps decision-makers🔶 The difference between narrative risk and asset risk🔶 First-mover advantages in an evolving macro landscape🔶 Why Bitcoin demands a new financial lens

If you're trying to see through the noise and prepare for what’s next, this episode delivers the clarity.

Bryan Solstin is a former aerospace systems engineer, Bitcoiner, conservationist, privacy advocate, and author of “Bitcoin and Nash Equilibrium” as well as “Apex Environmental Solution: Bitcoin.”

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00:00 - Understanding Nash Equilibrium and Its Relevance to Bitcoin

04:55 - Bitcoin as Immortal Nash Equilibrium

12:33 - The Invisible Hand: Adam Smith and Bitcoin

18:34 - Nash's Influence on Bitcoin's Architecture and Ideal Money

25:52 - The Intersection of Philosophy and Economics in Bitcoin

26:14 - The Intersection of Mathematics and Bitcoin

29:12 - Philosophical Foundations of Bitcoin

32:18 - The Nature of Ideal Money

35:22 - Current Events and Bitcoin's Role

36:59 - The Evolution of Bitcoin

39:02 - Bitcoin as a Commodity

43:58 - Nash's Critique of Inflation and Bailouts

50:04 - Non-Cooperative Systems and Bitcoin

54:23 - The Impact of Monetary Systems on Society

55:52 - Individual Empowerment through Decentralization

57:48 - Natural Selection and Economic Systems

58:39 - Political Money and Social Dependency & Bitcoin as Freedom Money

58:58 - Global Financial Peace through Bitcoin

01:01:46 - Nash's Paranoia and Satoshi's Disappearance

01:05:08 - The Plural Pronoun Connection

01:07:35 - The Future of Bitcoin and Personal Responsibility

01:11:38 - The End Game of Bitcoin's Global Impact

ℹ️ EPISODE SUMMARY

Bryan Solstin joins Bram Kanstein to break down one of the most mind-expanding ideas in Bitcoin: that it’s not just sound money, it’s an Immortal Nash Equilibrium. We explore game theory, asymptotically ideal money, John Nash’s obsession with peace through mathematics, and why Bitcoin might be the only system that creates global cooperation—without needing trust. What you’ll learn.

• What a Nash Equilibrium is—and why Bitcoin might be the first digital one
• Why decentralization isn’t just a tech trend, but a mathematically grounded peace mechanism
• How fixed-supply money can emerge gradually, without revolution or force
• What “Asymptotically Ideal Money” means—and why it matters more than gold
• How Bitcoin’s halving schedule is rooted in game theory, not just code
• The eerie parallels between John Nash’s paranoia and Satoshi’s disappearance
• A whole new mental model: Bitcoin not just as “sound money,” but as a cooperative equilibrium

Zuby is an independent author, podcast host, and creative entrepreneur with over 2 million followers, known for viral social commentary on society, culture, and personal development. He's a passionate Bitcoin advocate, championing its potential for individual empowerment and economic freedom.

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00:00 - Introduction to Independent Thought

09:01 - The Role of Emotional Control in Critical Thinking

16:31 - Navigating Information Overload in the Digital Age

21:59 - Technology's Impact on Society and Personal Responsibility

29:20 - Navigating the Information Diet

34:21 - The Dual Nature of Technology

37:21 - Spiritual Reflections in a Technological Age

49:19 - Authority and Legitimacy in Modern Society

55:30 - Responsibility in the Age of Freedom

01:00:20 - Questioning Wealth and Decision-Making

01:02:12 - The Burden and Freedom of Knowledge

01:04:36 - Conservatism and Change in Financial Thinking

01:07:00 - Risk Perception and Investment Strategies

01:10:20 - The S-Curve of Adoption

01:12:47 - Long-Term Perspectives on Investments

01:15:12 - The Simplicity of Bitcoin

01:18:08 - Generational Wealth and Opportunities

01:21:34 - The Path to Understanding Bitcoin

ℹ️ EPISODE SUMMARY

Bram Kanstein and Zuby discuss the importance of independent thought in a world filled with misinformation and groupthink. Zuby emphasizes the need for emotional control to enhance critical thinking and explores the challenges posed by technology and information overload. Zuby also highlights the role of personal responsibility in navigating these issues and the impact of technology on human behavior. In this conversation, Zuby and Bram Kanstein explore the complexities of modern society, focusing on the impact of technology on our lives, the importance of self-control in an age of abundance, and the philosophical questions that arise in a rapidly changing world. They discuss the dual nature of technology as both a tool for connection and a source of distraction, the evolving concept of authority and legitimacy, and the responsibilities that come with freedom, particularly in the context of Bitcoin and personal accountability. In this conversation, Bram Kanstein and Zuby explore the complexities of wealth, investment, and the revolutionary potential of Bitcoin. They discuss the challenges of questioning traditional financial wisdom, the importance of understanding risk, and the generational opportunity that Bitcoin presents. The dialogue emphasizes the need for personal reflection and informed decision-making in a rapidly changing financial landscape, while also addressing the conservative nature of most people's financial habits. Ultimately, they advocate for a proactive approach to financial education and investment, particularly in Bitcoin, as a means to secure future wealth.

Nick Moran is the founder and CEO of Intercosmic Energy, developing the world's first feasible approach to space-based solar power through orbital Bitcoin mining. After getting orange-pilled in 2018, he conceived this breakthrough solution in November 2024 that could solve a 50-year challenge that has stumped NASA.

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00:00 - Introduction to Space-Based Solar Power and Bitcoin Mining

01:24 - Nick's Journey: From Refinery Operator to Bitcoin Innovator

09:03 - The Moment of Realization: Bitcoin's Real-World Utility

14:40 - The Idea: Mining Bitcoin in Space

19:49 - The Economic Incentive: Why Space Mining Makes Sense

25:29 - Technical Feasibility: How It All Works

30:18 - Next Steps: Turning Ideas into Reality

33:48 - Bitcoin: The Black Hole of Value

34:13 - The Economics of Space Mining

35:00 - Bitcoin's Infinite Potential

36:28 - The Future of Energy and Mining

38:46 - Mining Bitcoin in Space: A Viable Solution

40:23 - Open Source Innovations in Space Mining

42:47 - Utilizing the International Space Station

44:35 - Manifesting Ideas into Reality

48:06 - The Energy of Ideas

50:54 - Bitcoin: A Solution for Humanity

52:05 - The Vision for Interplanetary Currency

55:00 - The Timeline for Space Mining

56:27 - The Bigger Picture: Bitcoin's Role in Society

ℹ️ EPISODE SUMMARY

Bram Kanstein and Nick Moran discuss Nick’s revolutionary plan to mine Bitcoin in space using stranded solar energy, drawing from 12,000+ hours of Bitcoin research and a decade in cryogenic energy experience. In this groundbreaking discussion with Bram Kanstein, Nick explains how orbital mining could solve energy inefficiencies while addressing a 50-year NASA challenge, covering the business case for space-based Bitcoin mining, Starlink's crucial role in orbital operations, and why space offers the perfect environment for Bitcoin's evolution. From his journey as a refinery operator to becoming a Bitcoin visionary, Nick shares his vision of Bitcoin as a universal interplanetary currency and emphasizes the importance of taking action on breakthrough ideas. This isn't science fiction—it's the next frontier where Bitcoin, energy innovation, and space technology converge. Essential viewing for Bitcoin enthusiasts, energy innovators, and anyone fascinated by the future of cryptocurrency and space exploration.

Jake Woodhouse is a forward-thinking investor and podcaster, who passionately explores Bitcoin's rise among influential circles, believing in its transformative potential for wealth and power.

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00:00 - Introduction to Bitcoin and Life Changes

01:29 - The Empowering Nature of Bitcoin

04:21 - Shifting Perspectives on Money and Time

07:09 - The Journey of Investment and Learning

10:27 - The Asymmetry of Bitcoin Investment

13:23 - Lessons from Experienced Investors

16:30 - The Evolution of Bitcoin's Value

19:20 - Long-Term Thinking and Family Wealth

22:32 - The Future of Bitcoin and Economic Stability

30:41 - Bitcoin vs. Traditional Assets

33:26 - The Real Estate Dilemma

39:05 - The Illusion of Value in Real Estate

45:15 - Measuring Value: Bitcoin vs. Real Estate

53:36 - Personal Investment Journeys

01:00:33 - The Challenge of Self-Trust

01:01:43 - Sovereignty in Wealth Management

01:03:30 - Taking Risks and Personal Accountability

01:05:57 - Outsourcing Responsibility: A Double-Edged Sword

01:08:24 - Recognizing Financial Crossroads

01:10:29 - Self-Actualization Through Bitcoin

01:16:43 - Investing in Humanistic and Intellectual Capital

01:19:26 - The Journey of Personal Development

01:22:59 - The Future of Bitcoin and Personal Freedom

ℹ️ EPISODE SUMMARY

Jake Woodhouse and Bram Kanstein explore the empowering nature of podcasting and Bitcoin, discussing how these elements allow individuals to regain control over their time and finances. They delve into the balance between family life and investments, the personal growth that comes from engaging with Bitcoin, and the importance of understanding it as a store of value. The discussion also highlights the significance of learning from experienced investors, the role of technology in Bitcoin adoption, and the risks associated with traditional investments compared to Bitcoin's liquidity and accessibility. In this conversation, Jake Woodhouse and Bram Kanstein explore the intricate relationship between liquidity, asset prices, and the impact of monetary policy on real estate and Bitcoin investments. They discuss the illusion of price appreciation in real estate, the transition from traditional investments to Bitcoin, and the personal growth that comes from taking financial responsibility. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of self-actualization and the need to fix oneself before attempting to fix the world, highlighting the transformative power of Bitcoin in achieving financial freedom and personal development.

Trace Mayer is an entrepreneur, investor, journalist, and monetary scientist who was among the first prominent advocates for Bitcoin since it was $0.10! He is an avid defender of monetary sovereignty and freedom of speech. A true OG of OGS.

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00:00 - Welcome to the Bitcoin Conference 2025

00:33 - The Evolution of Bitcoin and Its Impact

02:16 - Monetary Sovereignty Through Bitcoin

04:39 - Understanding Bitcoin's Complexity

07:40 - The Role of Education in Bitcoin Adoption

10:34 - The Future of Bitcoin and Generational Wealth

14:50 - Bitcoin as a Geopolitical Asset

17:33 - Challenges Ahead for Bitcoin

20:46 - The Inevitable Rise of Bitcoin

23:31 - Cultivating a Mind for Bitcoin

26:40 - The Future of Bitcoin Mining

29:39 - Bitcoin: The Money for Millennials

32:46 - Core Beliefs and the Future of Bitcoin

ℹ️ EPISODE SUMMARY

Bram Kanstein and Trace Mayer discusses the evolution of Bitcoin, its significance as a tool for monetary sovereignty, and the challenges it faces in the future. Trace emphasizes the importance of education and understanding in adopting Bitcoin, particularly for millennials and younger generations. The discussion also touches on Bitcoin's role as a geopolitical asset and the necessity of cultivating a mindset that embraces the complexities of Bitcoin. Mayer shares insights on the generational wealth transfer and the potential of Bitcoin to empower future generations.

Paul Rogers, author of "Money, Love and Bitcoin," left his career as a wealth manager after discovering Bitcoin's potential to fix flaws in the monetary system. Drawing from his yoga training in India and studies of global wisdom traditions, he now integrates these insights to envision new systems for better living.

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🕑 TIMESTAMPS

00:00 - Introduction to Bitcoin and Its Significance for Millennials

01:29 - The Challenges of Modern Economic Structures

05:56 - Bitcoin as a Foundation for New Structures

13:53 - Understanding Money and Its Role in Value Creation

19:03 - Bitcoin's Design and Its Impact on Trust

23:51 - The Interconnection of Money, Love, and Humanity

27:53 - The Philosophical Battle for a New Paradigm

30:01 - Building a New Reality Beyond the Old Paradigm

35:48 - The Illusion of Happiness and Quick Fixes

37:50 - Navigating Technological Advancements for Humanity

40:47 - The Role of Wisdom in Technology and Society

44:54 - Love as the Foundation of Existence

47:43 - Manifestation and the Power of Intention

49:37 - Bitcoin as a Pathway to a Better Future

53:47 - Practical Steps Towards Embracing Bitcoin

59:50 - Reflecting on the Journey from Traditional Finance to Bitcoin

01:05:51 - Cultural Hurdles in Embracing Bitcoin

01:10:54 - The Unifying Power of Love

ℹ️ EPISODE SUMMARY

Bram Kanstein and Paul J. Rogers discuss the significance of Bitcoin for Millennials, addressing the challenges posed by modern economic structures and the potential for Bitcoin to serve as a foundational layer for new societal structures. Paul emphasizes the importance of understanding money, the role of value creation, and the need for deeper philosophical principles to guide technological advancements. The dialogue explores the interconnectedness of money, love, and humanity, and the philosophical battle for a new paradigm that transcends the limitations of the current fiat system. Bram Kanstein and Paul J. Rogers also explore the deeper issues of humanity, the illusion of happiness through consumerism, and the potential of technology to serve humanity rather than control it. They discuss the importance of wisdom in navigating technological advancements, the foundational role of love in existence, and how Bitcoin can be a pathway to a better future. Practical steps for individuals feeling trapped in the current financial system are also shared, along with reflections on the journey from traditional finance to embracing Bitcoin as a new paradigm.