SHAKE IT OFF! Today we’re joined by superfan and certified Swifty, Kristen Macdonald, to discuss the worldwide phenomena that is pop’s favorite anti-hero; TAYLOR SWIFT. Settle in for a fascinating crash course on one of the world’s biggest fandoms as we discuss Swift’s early music (and the battle to keep it), the media's fascination with her dating life and feuds, how she uses clues and easter eggs to game-ifiy her fandom, and why she matters so much to so many people. Plus, an epic Eras tour story and some excerpts from a very gay powerpoint.

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