This is the second and final part of retired FBI profiler Julia Cowley’s discussion with retired Sergeant Dan Kraus of the Clackamas County Sheriff’s Office and Senior Investigator John Krummenacker of the Clackamas County District Attorney’s Office. They delve into the 2009 murder of Joe Haley in Milwaukie, Oregon, sharing how the case was solved and the key lessons learned along the way.

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