Phil Cavell helped pioneer bike fit with the early Trek teams, runs CycleFit in London, writes books, walks dogs, rides bikes and pens a monthly column in Cyclist magazine about how to keep riding into old age. He is also author of The Midlife Cyclist (Bloomsbury).

James and Joe speak to Phil about training, sleeping and how it is a young rider can be throwing up after too much to drink one minute, then winning a bike race the next.

Interview starts at 18.30

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