In this episode, Kelly Mcneil sits down with Liz RIggs Meder. Liz is the recreation program director for the American Institute for Avalanche Research and Education (AIARE). Liz shares with us some thoughts and advice around risk management instruction, the role of public health in avalanche education and what that might look like in the future. We also dive into some important topics speaking to inclusion specific avalanche education. We hope you enjoy this episode! Music by Age Diamante.