Bob is joined by award-winning activist and writer, Rebecca Nagle. Rebecca hosts “This Land,” a podcast by Crooked Media that centers around the many legal battles for indigenous rights that are occurring in the United States. As a citizen of Cherokee Nation, Rebecca brings her perspective and personal experiences to the podcast, delving deeply into the legal cases themselves, but also detailing the important histories and circumstances that surround each case. In the episode, Bob and Rebecca discuss Rebecca’s background and activism, the Gabby Petito case, and the issues of sexual assault and consent. They then dive into a discussion on a major topic of This Land’s Season 2, the case of Brackeen v. Haaland. The case originated as a lawsuit filed by a family seeking to adopt their indigenous foster child, but eventually grew into a federal case that would determine the future of the Indian Child Welfare Act of 1978. Rebecca’s research into the case also led her to uncover deeper conspiracies against the rights of Native Americans across the US, and to identify the specific groups responsible.

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