DEPTH Work: A Holistic Mental Health Podcast

63. The Future of Mental Health Education with Noah Gokul & Jessie Roth


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Traditional mental health practices and treatment have garnered a lot of critique from concerned clinicians, researchers, and activists. However, when it comes to shifting practice, we have to change what’s being taught in schools, institutions, and non-profits. Mental health education for social workers, clinicians, and even family members, advocates, peers, and care workers has the potential to be truly transformative if we are willing to question our old outdated assumptions. In this episode I speak with Noah Gokul and Jessie Roth, the staff at The Institute for the Development of Human Arts who are leading the next wave of transformative mental health education.


In this episode:

  • Why what’s being taught in schools is disconnected from what’s happening on the ground in mental health treatment
  • Why providers are burning out and not finding the resources they need
  • The #1 thing people say to us when they find IDHA and transformative mental health training
  • Links:

    • IDHA’s Transformative Mental Health Core Curriculum: https://www.idha-nyc.org/core-curriculum IDHA’s Transformative Mental Health Core Curriculum is a training for people who want to transform how they approach personal and collective healing, gain tangible advocacy skills, and shift broader systems of care. This self-guided, virtual training centers lived experience and is a unique opportunity to gain in-depth knowledge spanning dozens of disciplines, social movements, geographies, and perspectives.
    • Institute for the Development of Human Arts ⁠www.idha-nyc.org⁠


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        Articles mentioned:

        Time article: https://time.com/6308096/therapy-mental-health-worse-us/


        Noah (they/them) is a Queer multidisciplinary artist and educator here to create liberated worlds through art, storytelling, and sound. They grew up in Oakland, CA/unceded Ohlone land, and identify as a trauma survivor with sensitivities to the world around them. They use music and art for meaning-making and the healing of others, integrating these passions into their work as a peer for young adults in a first-episode psychosis program. They have facilitated in a wide variety of settings, at the intersections of anti-oppression, trauma, incarceration, Caribbean ancestry, music, and mental health. Through their incantations they create spaces of radical imagination and possibility.


        Jessie Roth is a writer and movement organizer with more than a decade of experience at the intersection of mental health and social justice. She is the Director of the Institute for the Development of Human Arts (IDHA), a transformative mental health training institute bringing together mental health workers, peers, survivors, activists, artists, and other advocates for education and community development. Inspired by personal and family mental health experiences, Jessie’s work is focused on the healing power of storytelling and the importance of cross-movement organizing for mental health liberation. A longtime IDHA member, Jessie supported the development of initiatives such as Mental Health Trialogue, a forum bridging the perspectives of peers, family members, and providers; and Decarcerating Care, an ongoing panel series discussing the carceral nature of the mental health system, rooted in the voices and experiences of survivors. Her writing has been published in We've Been Too Patient: An Anthology of Voices from Radical Mental Health, the Intima Journal of Narrative Medicine, and the Village Voice. She is also an avid home cook, passionate about the power of cooking as a care-centered creative practice.


        Disclaimer: The DEPTH Work Podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Any information on this podcast in no way to be construed or substituted as psychological counseling, psychotherapy, mental health counseling, or any other type of therapy or medical advice.

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