According to Parker Palmer, there are two ways our heart can break. It can shatter into a million pieces or it can break open into greater capacity. Waylon talks with Parker about how we can make our hearts supple enough to handle that big break. Parker and Waylon also discussed how to make our lives simple without taking ourselves too seriously. We can start by examining the interaction between what's within us and what's outside of us—How can we make choices that are more life giving than death dealing?