In this episode Jon & James interview Ellen Dykas, who works for Harvest USA and wrote the 31 Day Devotional for Life on Toxic Relationships. We thinks this was an awesome conversation and one that is very important. There were some landscape workers working outside of Ellen's office for a bit and we tried some editing to take some of it out but you may hear it and it doesn't drown out the awesome insights that Ellen was giving us.

Link to Ellen's book: https://www.amazon.com/Toxic-Relationships-Taking-Refuge-Devotionals-ebook/dp/B091TX9J7W/ref=sr_1_1?crid=25MXORI3H6Y3Z&keywords=Toxic+Relationships+31+day+devotional&qid=1651089436&sprefix=toxic+relationships+31+day+devotional%2Caps%2C164&sr=8-1

Link to Ellen's page on Harvest USA: https://harvestusa.org/our-mission/regional-offices-staff/philadelphia-pa/ellen-dykas/