This week on Zizek and So On we spoke with Eliran Bar-El (PhD), researcher at The University of Cambridge for Sociology. We discovered Eliran in reading his article titled “Anti-Anti-Zizek: Public Intellectuals and Global Pandemic” which is his response to the criticism regarding Zizek’s book PAN(D)EMIC!, his most recent work on the COVID-19 crisis. Eliran explains that the style of criticism surrounding Zizek evidences the uniqueness of his public interventions, and with reference to his background in sociology, we explore in conversation the notion that Zizek’s form of dialectic is best described as a kind of performance: that of the sacrificial intellectual.