Hello, and welcome to episode #71 of the rose bros podcast!

This episode we are joined by Matt Varughese - CEO of 8020, a low code/no code web design firm.

Instead of expensive developers, 8020 uses modern platforms to design, build and automate websites, mobile apps, internal dashboards, and more.

Prior to 8020, Matt built and eventually sold another low code/no code web design company called Websterpeace which was  acquired by 8020 - the company Matt would later become CEO of. 

8020 is now a portfolio company of Andrew Wilkinson's Tiny Capital  and includes investor Shane Parrish from Farnam Street as one of its major owners.

We sat down for a smooth cup of rose bros coffee   and talked about founding a web design agency, selling a web design agency, the value of low code/no code, giving away your work for free, good business books, learning to code and a lot more.

Enjoy!

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