What are really good conversations made of? And how is a dialogue similar to a work of art? In this episode I speak to facilitator, theatre director and writer Pernilla Glaser to explore the transformative power conversations, and discuss why we’re both obsessed with them.

Pernilla Glaser runs the company Boiler and works at RISE (Research Institutes of Sweden), developing methods and leading processes within the areas of art, learning and complexity. She is also a writer, and began her career as award-winning theatre director. Now she brings the creativity and playfulness of artistic practice into all kinds of learning processes. That can mean facilitating workshops that help people collaborate across disciplines, or coaching change processes within organisations, or working with other facilitators on how to develop their skills. Central to all her work is how we can have transformative conversations, with and without words.

LINKS AND FURTHER READING

• Pernilla’s company: www.boiler.one .


• Conversations hosted by Boiler: https://vimeo.com/user111347854 .


• Translating Difference: Making community through play (2020) by Pernilla Glaser.


• Navigating Complexity (2020). Report for RISE by Pernilla Glaser and Lisa Carlgren: http://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:1459999/FULLTEXT01.pdf .

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Keywords: Pernilla Glaser, conversations, dialogue collaboration, facilitation, coaching change, process facilitation, complexity, emergence, changing organisations

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