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It is entirely normal for chronic pain treatments not to work for every patient — but that reality is rarely communicated clearly. This episode unpacks the concept of "number needed to treat" (NNT), explains the ecological fallacy, and walks through how to properly trial medications. Patients learn how to communicate their preferences and set realistic expectations, while clinicians gain tools to navigate therapeutic limitations with evidence-based language and greater transparency.
Resources:
www.iniyh.com
https://www.instagram.com/iniyhpodcast/
Timestamps:
00:00 Official Intro
00:17 Intro - It's normal for treatments not to work
03:07 Number Needed to treat within Neuropathic Pain
05:06 Trial it for 6 weeks
06:07 Context is important in Number needed to treat
10:23 It's an Average - the ecological fallacy
15:00 Why do we do it this way?
16:04 The experienced Clinician can predict
18:15 Develop good communication with your Physician
19:18 Evidence-Based Medicine
20:34 Final Point
21:54 Disclaimer
By Dr. Dan Bates & Justine Feitelson5
44 ratings
It is entirely normal for chronic pain treatments not to work for every patient — but that reality is rarely communicated clearly. This episode unpacks the concept of "number needed to treat" (NNT), explains the ecological fallacy, and walks through how to properly trial medications. Patients learn how to communicate their preferences and set realistic expectations, while clinicians gain tools to navigate therapeutic limitations with evidence-based language and greater transparency.
Resources:
www.iniyh.com
https://www.instagram.com/iniyhpodcast/
Timestamps:
00:00 Official Intro
00:17 Intro - It's normal for treatments not to work
03:07 Number Needed to treat within Neuropathic Pain
05:06 Trial it for 6 weeks
06:07 Context is important in Number needed to treat
10:23 It's an Average - the ecological fallacy
15:00 Why do we do it this way?
16:04 The experienced Clinician can predict
18:15 Develop good communication with your Physician
19:18 Evidence-Based Medicine
20:34 Final Point
21:54 Disclaimer

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