LET'SA GO! Today we're leveling up with game enthusiast Grant Pettypiece, as we talk about the energetic Italian plumber beloved the world over; IT'SA MARIO! We're talking about Mario's humble origins as 'jumpman', intuitive game design, the Mushroom Kingdom's questionable doctorate degrees, canonically trans birds, and which character is definitely NOT wearing a hat. Plus, we chat about how Nintendo prioritizes play and indulge in our own game of 'Smash Bros or Pass bros'.

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